EXCLUSIVE: 'We have prepared the letters to take World Rugby to court'
England’s top clubs are paying 20 overseas players more than £350,000 a season which has triggered the legal action being taken against World Rugby which threatens to block release for World Cup training camps in the build up to next year’s tournament in Japan.
Phil Winstanley, Rugby Director at Premiership Rugby, has revealed to RugbyPass the financial facts behind their action which they insist is not aimed at hurting Tier 2 and 3 nations in World Cup year but is designed to force World Rugby to adequately cover all players when they are released by their clubs for international commitments.
England are not affected as player release is governed by the £220m Professional Game Agreement signed by PRL and the RFU.
World Rugby has been notified that papers will be lodged with the courts in England in three weeks with the action aimed at removing the current limit on insurance cover. Winstanley confirmed an agreement which lasted until the middle of this year, signed in the build-up to the 2015 World Cup, had no ceiling on insurance cover but World Rugby want to revert to their original position despite a significant rise in wages for the top players during the period.
Unlimited cover is in place in football, on the last four British and Irish Lions tours and for those Premiership players chosen for the Barbarians. Premiership Rugby wants that replicated for all nations with World Rugby picking up the bill, not the individual countries.
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Winstanley said: “A proposal was put forward to the regulations committee of World Ruby which was rejected but they offered to increase cover to from £225,000 to £350,000. The problem we have got is that there are 60 non-English players in the Premiership earning more than £250,000 and 20 players currently earning more than £350,000.
“We have prepared the letters to take World Rugby to court because we believe the regulation is unfair and inequitable. We wrote to them three das ago saying we will lodge papers with the court in three weeks. Because of Christmas we have made it three weeks and the bottom line is that in our view Regulation 9 and 23 are illegal in their current form because it forces us to release players without them being covered fully by insurance.
“World Rugby are trying make this about affordability for Tier 2 and 3 nations and that is not the issue. This is about World Rugby dealing with it on behalf of all unions and there is no reason why they cannot put a policy in place to centrally run this for all of the Unions and pick up the bill. With the current deal ending in June this year we have now been forced to escalate it. What isn’t understood is that what we have been seeking has been in place for the last three years and there was no limit. That has expired and now we are back into the original position and the ball is very much in World Rugby’s hands.
“It was put to me that we could let those players not earning more than the old limit be released but if you do that then it immediately identifies what individual players are earning and that is not right. It’s a private matter.
“World Rugby signed a side letter prior to the 2015 World Cup that took us up to June 30, 2018 that removed all limits. If you got injured for more than 12 months it was covered. I sat down with World Rugby at the start of 2018 and said this was an unacceptable situation and we need to incorporate this in regulations. We wrote to them in April with a letter which put on record that unless the position changed we were forced to take legal action.”
England’s top clubs are refusing to back down over the issue and want to distance themselves from suggestions they are harming the chances of smaller nations who cannot afford massive insurance bills in a World Cup year when they need to hold more training camps.
He added: “The challenge we have now is that we risk the club having the bear the liability of an injury that happens on test and training camp duty after we have been forced to release them and that is inequitable. It’s like if you had a new sports car and I used it and scraped all the sides of it and handed it back saying I can only afford to fix bits of the car but I want the vehicle again next week. The logic is just not fair and we need to change it.
“World Rugby says that we are damaging Tier 2 and Tier 3 Unions. This is not a T2 or T3 problem it is a World Rugby problem. A fraction of what is generated by international matches revenues will cover the costs of cover for a year but they are choosing not to do that. We want World Rugby to show some leadership and put insurance cover in place.
“It would be a nonsense for us to release players for World Cup camps knowing we would bear the cost if they got injured. Players will be released 35 days prior to the World Cup under Regulation 9 and we will do that in August. If Wales or Scotland asked to arrange something separately we would have a conversation but that is not the issue because its’s not right that if you can afford it you can do it. The answer has to be “No” because we want World Rugby to cover all nations.”
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Farcical, to what end would someone want to pay to keep this thing going.
1 Go to commentsHavili, our best 12 by a mile, will be in the squad, if he stays fit. JB is the most overrated AB in the last 50 years.
61 Go to commentsWe had during the week twilight footy, twilight cricket, tw golf plus there was the athletics club. Then the weekend was rugby 15s plus the net ball, really busy club scene back then but so much has changed and rugby has suffered. And it was all about changing lifestyles.
6 Go to commentsIn the 70s and 80s my club ran 5 Senior sides plus a Vets. Now it is 2 sides with an occasional 3rd team. Players have difficulty getting to training now, not sure why and the commitment is not there. It seems to me more a problem of people applying themselves and not expecting to turn up and play whenever they want to.
6 Go to commentsROG’s contract is until 2027. The conversation about a successor to Galthie after RWC 2027 may be starting now. We can infer that Galthie’s reign stops then. He is throwing the Irish Coaching Job angle in because he is Irish. The next Irish coach MUST be Leo Cullen. As well as being the best coach available, coaching the vast majority of Irish Internationals week in week out, he has shown incredible skill at recruiting the best coaching staff for the job in hand. That was a failing in France. Cullen is a shrewd guy and if there is a need for foreign coaches underneath him he won’t hesitate. Rightly so. Ireland does need to start to bring Irish coaches through. Not just at the professional level but we need to train coaches to man new pathways for developing kids from schools/clubs up through the divisions.
7 Go to commentsNo Islam says it must rule where it stands Thus it is to be deleted from this planet Earth
18 Go to commentsThis team probably does not beat the ABs sadly Not sure if BPA will be available given his signing for Force but has to enter consideration. Very strong possibility of getting schooled by the AB props. Advantage AB. Rodda/Skelton would be a tasty locking combination - would love to see how they get on. Advantage Wallabies. Backrow a risk of getting out hustled and outmuscled by ABs. Will be interesting to see if the Blues feast on the Reds this weekend the way they did the Brumbies we are in big trouble at the breakdown. Great energy, running and defence but goalkicking/general kicking/passing quality in the halves bothers me enormously. SA may have won the World Cup for a lot of the tournament without a recognised goalkicker but Pollard in the final made a difference IMO. Injuries and retirements leave AB stocks a bit lighter but still stronger. 12 and 13 ABs shade it (Barret > Paisami, Ione = Ikitau, arguably) Interesting clash of styles on the wings - Corey Toole running around Caleb Clark and Caleb running over the top of Toole. Reece vs Koro probably the reverse. Pretty even IMO. 15s Kelleway = Love See advantage to ABs man for man, but we are not obviously getting slaughtered anywhere which makes a nice change. Think talent wise we are pretty even and if our cohesion and teamwork is better than the ABs then its just about doable.
11 Go to commentsCompletely agree. More friday night games would be a hit. RFU to make sure every club has a floodlit pitch. Club opens again Saturday to welcome touch / tag. Minis and youths on Sunday
6 Go to comments1.97m and 105Kg? Proportionately, probably skinnier than me at 1.82 and 82kilos. He won’t survive against the big guys at that weight.
55 Go to commentsThe value he brought to the crusaders as an assistant was equal to what he got out of being there. He reflected not only on the team culture but also the credit he attributed to the rugby community. Such experience shouldn’t be overlooked.
7 Go to commentsGood luck Aussie
11 Go to commentssmith at 9 / mounga 10 / laumape 12 / fainganuku 14
61 Go to commentsBar the injuries, it’s pretty much their top team …
2 Go to commentsDon’t disagree with much of this but it appears you forgot Rodda and Beale, who started at the Force on the weekend.
11 Go to commentsExcept for the injured Zach Gallagher this would be Saders best forward pack for the season. Blackadder needs to stay at 7, for all of Christies tackling he is not dominant and offers very little else. McNicholfullback is maybe a good option, Fihaki not really upto it, there was a reason Burke played there last year. Maybe Havilli to 2nd five McLeod to wing. Need a strong winger on 1 side to compliment Reece
1 Go to commentsTo me TJ is clearly the best 9 in the competition right now but he's also a proven player off the bench, there's few playmaking players who can come off the bench as calm and settled as he is, Beauden can, TJ can and I doubt any of the scrumhalves in contention can, if they want to experiment with new 9s I want him on the bench ready to step in if they crumble under the pressure. The Boks put their best front row on the bench, I'd like to see us take a similar approach, the Hurricanes have been doing similar things with players like Kirifi.
61 Go to commentsROG has better chance to win a WC if he starts training and make himself eligible as a player. He won’t make the Ireland squad but I reckon he may get close with Namibia (needs to improve his Afrikaans) or Portugal. Both sides had 1000:1 odds to win the RWC in 2023 which is an improvement on ROG’s odds of winning a RWC as a coach. Unlike Top 14 teams, national teams can’t go shopping and buy the best players - you work with the available talent pool and turn them into world beaters.
7 Go to commentsthat backline nope that backline is terrible why would you have sevu Reece when he’s not even top 5 wingers in the comp why have Blackadder when there’s better players no Scott barret isn’t an automatic the guy is more of a liability than anything why have him there when you have samipeni who’s far far better
61 Go to commentsAh, good to find you Nick. Agree with everything about Cale. So much to like about his game
55 Go to commentsNot too bad. Questions at 6, lock and HB for me. The ABs will be a lot stronger once Jordan and Roigard return. Also, work needs to be made to secure Frizzell back for next season and maybe also Mo’unga; they’re just wasting time playing in japan
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