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English media taken back down to earth by ex-Bok boss after All Blacks win

Maro Itoje and Henry Pollock/ PA

Former South Africa head coach Nick Mallett has accused the English media of “getting ahead of themselves” following England’s 33-19 victory over the All Blacks at Twickenham’s Allianz Stadium recently.

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Steve Borthwick’s side triumphed in London to lift them to third in the World Rugby rankings, with only South Africa and New Zealand ahead of them.

With only Argentina to come for England in the Quilter Nations Series, they will not have the opportunity to go up against the Springboks this year, with sections of the English media yearning for that match-up.

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Following the victory, TNT Sports commentator and former England international Austin Healey said: “I know we’re playing Argentina next week, and I know we played them twice this year, but I so wish we were playing South Africa because you really want to see how good, how far can this England side be pushed? And the only way to push yourself is by beating and playing against the best, and at the minute South Africa are way ahead of everyone else and I’d love to know really where do this England team stand?”

Mallett, however, interpreted Healey’s comments as saying “we can’t wait to get hold of South Africa,” to which he has offered a retort, saying “I always know what happens with those English supporters.”

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“They’ve copied South Africa,” the former South Africa and Italy coach said to Brenden Nel. “The guys coming off the bench make a massive difference to their finish. In the last 20 minutes, England really got on top of New Zealand. They [New Zealand] can talk about missed opportunities, but I think England would have come back and created problems.

“I did say before the game that I thought England would win this one and that’s what happened. I don’t think this New Zealand side is as strong as people think.

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“During the game, they were going off about how brilliant this team was. They’ve gone through dark times, so for them to beat the All Blacks was great for the supporters and for the team, and for the commentators. But, to me, I thought they were saying ‘we can’t wait to get hold of South Africa’. It just seemed they were getting ahead of themselves. I always know what happens with those English supporters – you win one game like this and I swear to God they’re going to win the next World Cup without a doubt.”

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Mike Gibson 26 days ago

Guys this is how modern online media works.


Apparently divisive etc comments create most clicks and engagement. The trolls love it and ordinary fans feel they have to respond to trolls misrepresenting comments or throwing insults etc.

In this case, a fair live comment by match co commentator Healey saying who he personally would like to test England against SA. England have just had a rare home win against the ABs. Healey is entitled to his opinion.

Mallett misconstrued it and now we have the click bait.


I will say this about a certain section of SA supporters. The amount of abuse you throw is inversely proportional to the thickness of your skin. I think Gordon Darcy was right when he said that perceived slights works well with the SA team.

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rs 27 days ago

Just read an article from South African rugby that Boks have two teams that can beat anyone. I can guess who wrote it but want to say what junk. As a Saffa I'm often embarrassed at this kind of talk. South Africa has depth but to suggest one takes out the top 15 and still be good enough is a joke

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Eric Elwood 27 days ago

Argentina is the perfect match for England right now. More to learn than versus SA.

I also think SA as opponents suits Ireland now. And Vice Versa.


I see some Saffers calling others arrogant. Recall that NM said that SA were guaranteed to win every match this autumn, the only aspect of interest was the Erasmus selection apparently.

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Ninjin 27 days ago

England have underperformed for years with some wonderful players to boot. All the England bashing aside they can build a good squad for 27 if they keep their heads down and just go about their business. Do the talking on the field for a change and so forth. The Argentina match should give them a good indication of where they are. They are going good but if the Pollock ( I know he is just young but he embodies all that people think of how an English rugby fan behaves) type attitude is thrown in the faces of an Springbok side next year they will be chewed up and spat out.

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Jimmy 27 days ago

They need a squad of 33, same as they’ll take to the 27 WC

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Str3tch 27 days ago

For my own part, I'm more than a little interested to see how an England team, minus 3 players from a good result last weekend, measure up against the Pumas. There have been some pretty close results recently, and heading towards another RWC, these sorts of occasions do arise & how a team responds in these situations can make a massive difference to the outcome.

You can't win a tournament with a team - you need a whole squad.

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Str3tch 27 days ago

I'm failing to see where the confusion is here.

Healey says that England are getting better, but not to get too far ahead of themselves; you really need to measure yoursel es against the very best (which everyone agrees is South Africa).

PMcD on here, makes the point that although England are improving, it'll take them the next 6N to get to the apex of what the current crop can produce; and only then is it worthwhile matching up against the best (and still improving SA side).

Now I appreciate that a part of NM’s job is to take various comments out of context and make replies (it keeps rugby in the headlines); but for the rest of us - can we please keep the comments both relevant and respectful? We’re on the RugbyPass app, not our own blogs, etc.

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Mike Gibson 26 days ago

These types of arguments appear everywhere in modern online media. Its the nature of it. Its dawning on people and soon I hope these types of articles will lose their magnetism….yet here I am!!

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DP 27 days ago

CLICK BAIT ALERT FOR ALL TROLLS OUT THERE!!!!!

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Boddasaffa 27 days ago

It must be great being English, one win makes you world champions, yet you live in constant disappointment, there is no need to discuss other teams in a negative way. You Poms and pom supporters enable the saying: I support 2 teams South Africa and anyone playing England. Maybe look at what SA have done and appreciate it, maybe one day you will get there, until then try be gentlemen, not the usual yobs you are with your comments on this site.

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Tom 27 days ago

What an ignorant an comment.


Literally every pundit and fan in England is aware that SA are the best side in the world including Austin Healey. Stop getting butthurt over hyperbolic comments you read in the media. Argentina beat the ABs 3-4 times in the last few years, we've beaten them once.

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Hammer Head 27 days ago

Everyone: Saffers are insufferable!


EM, AP, FL: Hold our beers!

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