'You can play up to 32 games a year and it's just mental': Colin Slade explains why the Top 14 is on a completely different level to Super Rugby
Former All Blacks first five Colin Slade left New Zealand’s shores at the end of 2015, having just earned himself a second World Cup winner’s medal.
Seven years of professional rugby in NZ was enough for the Cantabrian, who had won multiple provincial championships with his province and cracked over 80 appearances for the Crusaders and Highlanders in Super Rugby.
Pau was to be Slade’s destination – a side that had only just fought its way out of France’s second division and was looking at bringing in some proven performers to complement the side’s local talent.
After four-and-a-half years in the southwest of France, Slade has now called time on his career in Europe and signed to play for the Mitsubishi Dynaboars in Tokyo.
At the time of Slade’s recruitment by Pau, the up-and-coming team had also secured the services of Conrad Smith and the small city was popping at the arrival of two All Blacks, fresh off a win over the Wallabies at the 2015 Word Cup.
“I wasn’t there before we arrived, but from what I heard, they were just waiting for us to turn up,” Slade told RugbyPass.
“I can’t speak for the team, but it felt like it wasn’t necessarily what we could do, it was probably more just the confidence it gave to the other guys. For a recent division two team over in France to get a couple of world champions pop in… you could just feel the vibe of the place.
“They had the new injection of sponsors and stuff when we turned up as well, so they had massive ambitions to be, I suppose, a bit of a fairytale story in France. We’d seen it in the past with Toulon and Racing as well, so Pau was tracking on that similar lines in terms of wanting to go to the top six and stuff like that.”
Those are some lofty expectations to lump onto arriving players, but Slade wasn’t concerned.
“They were really excited when we turned up and we were keen to live up to those expectations,” Slade said.
“I made the point when I first turned up that I was 28 and I wasn’t there for a holiday. I wanted to go over there and contribute, and play my best rugby.”
Slade and Smith made an instant impact, with Pau managing a 9th place finish in the team’s first season in the first division. In the years that followed, things continued to trend upwards as new faces arrived including another former All Black, Tom Taylor, and most recently, Ben Smith.
While Pau were making steady progress, the play was still incredibly tough and a new challenge for Slade and his fellow foreign teammates.
“I’m always tentative to say this, but it is a different intensity of play,” Slade said. “Super Rugby is probably faster whereas, in the Northern Hemisphere, with its long seasons, it can be a bit more of a grind and, in general, I’d say there are bigger blokes too.
“I think ‘emotional’ is probably the best way to describe French rugby. If they’re really motivated, they are freaking tough to stop. Even if they’re not the most skilful players or the most athletic, fastest, whatever, when their emotions are up, they can beat anyone.
“Obviously, the All Blacks have seen that, but you see it on the club level too. The number of times I’ve seen the 13th, 14th placed teams beat the first and second-placed teams – which wouldn’t happen back in New Zealand – just because they’re playing at home or one of their players is playing his 100th game or whatever, they just grow an extra arm and a leg and it’s something that I’ve grown to appreciate.
“It’s not necessarily always the small details or tactics and stuff like that. It’s just that if you have a desire to win, all that other stuff figures itself out. A team can rally really, really quickly.”
"In the back of my mind, it was all about just trying not to get hurt so I could pay my rent."
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When Slade first arrived, Pau were that 13th or 14th placed underdog but as the seasons passed, other teams were striving to knock them off their perch.
And those seasons didn’t exactly pass quickly, with the Top 14 running from late August until early June every year.
“It’s a long grind up there,” Slade admitted. “Sometimes, I’d play 13 weeks straight and you never did that back in New Zealand.”
Squads are built to last the season, which means that players shouldn’t – in theory – be too overworked. That doesn’t always work out in practice, however.
“We just had a few niggles in the last couple of seasons. Unfortunately, Tom’s been injured a wee bit in the last couple of years and then I had a few myself this year.
“I’ve been quite well looked after at Pau. Our coaches have been quite mindful of [player welfare], but you can play up to 32 games a year and it’s just mental. That’s not even including playoffs and European games.
“That’s probably the reason why I left, to be honest. It was just that Groundhog Day of basically doing 48 weeks straight together as a team in the same building, same gym, or whatever. Then you get your four weeks off and you do it all over again.
“Times that by four and a half years and it’s tough. Yeah, I’m getting paid well – but I’m probably taking years off the end of my career.”
It’s not just the long seasons that was tough to adjust to, but also the completely different rugby calendar.
“You’re playing through Christmas and New Year’s, when, traditionally for Kiwis, you’re at the beach and you’re having time off,” Slade said. “I’ve played on the 23rd, I’ve played on the 27th – it’s just normal. We just roll on through, but that’s the nature of it, you can’t avoid it.
“Rugby is supposed to be a winter game so you’ve got to expect a bit of rain but I’ve played games at 38 degrees, and then I’ve played games in fricking snow.”
“The replay got played over and over again and my head just kept dropping more and more as I looked at it.”
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Still, you don’t last almost half a decade playing professional rugby in a place if you’re not enjoying it and Slade is quick to trumpet the benefits of his time in Europe too.
“It’s been cool, man. I’ve loved every minute I’ve been over here, and it was just so hard to leave,” said Slade. “When you think about what we’ve managed to achieve in the four and a half years that we’ve been here, travel wise, it’s unreal. You name a country, we’ve been there.
“We really enjoyed France, so that’s why I was really open to staying on here too but I’m conscious of the fact that this may be my last contract.”
Ultimately, it’s not so much the long, taxing seasons that have made Slade and his family pull the plug on their time in Europe, but more the fact that they’ve simply completed what they set out to do – embrace a new culture and experience some things that wouldn’t have been possible back in New Zealand.
“I experienced what I wanted to experience, I came over and I played with the French for four and a half years and felt like I’d done what I needed to,” Slade said. “I did the travel stuff – and we haven’t travelled as much since we had kids – so it felt like we weren’t going to achieve any more travel.”
Rugby-wise, Slade’s seen players come and go for Pau and played a massive role in taking his team from a low-tier side in the Top 14 to one of the teams to beat – although a title has eluded them.
“The team went really well for a couple of years when I first turned up,” Slade said. “Every season, we got better – but we had a bad year last year where we lost quite a lot of guys coming off-contract.
“I felt like this year was a bit more of a rebuilding year and I didn’t really want to be part of a rebuild again. I felt like, if I’m being honest, this team had probably missed its chance to play play-offs and, perhaps with not too long left in my career, I just needed a change, I think.”
That change will come in the form of playing in Japan, with Slade planning on making his way over to the Land of the Rising Sun in time for the lengthy Top League pre-season.
“With the kids and stuff like that, I think being near to home and being able to spend more time at home between seasons and stuff like that is a little bit more important for the grandparents and for my wife as well,” Slade said.
“In some ways, it’s probably more of a family decision than a rugby decision but we’ve now also got the chance for a new culture and a new experience too and it’s probably the last crack to do that.”
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This is the problem with conservative mindsets and phycology, and homogenous sports, everybody wants to be the same, use the i-win template. Athlete wise everyone has to have muscles and work at the gym to make themselves more likely to hold on that one tackle. Do those players even wonder if they are now more likely to be tackled by that player as a result of there “work”? Really though, too many questions, Jake. Is it better Jake? Yes, because you still have that rugby of ole that you talk about. Is it at the highest International level anymore? No, but you go to your club or checkout your representative side and still engage with that ‘beautiful game’. Could you also have a bit of that at the top if coaches encouraged there team to play and incentivized players like Damian McKenzie and Ange Capuozzo? Of course we could. Sadly Rugby doesn’t, or didn’t, really know what direction to go when professionalism came. Things like the state of northern pitches didn’t help. Over the last two or three decades I feel like I’ve been fortunate to have all that Jake wants. There was International quality Super Rugby to adore, then the next level below I could watch club mates, pulling 9 to 5s, take on the countries best in representative rugby. Rugby played with flair and not too much riding on the consequences. It was beautiful. That largely still exists today, but with the world of rugby not quite getting things right, the picture is now being painted in NZ that that level of rugby is not required in the “pathway” to Super Rugby or All Black rugby. You might wonder if NZR is right and the pathway shouldn’t include the ‘amateur’, but let me tell you, even though the NPC might be made up of people still having to pull 9-5s, we know these people still have dreams to get out of that, and aren’t likely to give them. They will be lost. That will put a real strain on the concept of whether “visceral thrill, derring-do and joyful abandon” type rugby will remain under the professional level here in NZ. I think at some point that can be eroded as well. If only wanting the best athlete’s at the top level wasn’t enough to lose that, shutting off the next group, or level, or rugby players from easy access to express and showcase themselves certainly will. That all comes back around to the same question of professionalism in rugby and whether it got things right, and rugby is better now. Maybe the answer is turning into a “no”?
34 Go to commentsWow, didn’t realise there was such apathy to URC in SA, or by Champions Cup teams. Just read Nick’s article on Crusaders, are Sharks a similar circumstance? I think SA rugby has been far more balanced than NZs, no?
2 Go to commentsBut here in Australia we were told Penney was another gun kiwi coach, for the Tahs…….and yet again it turned out the kiwi coach was completely useless. Another con job on Australian rugby. As was Robbie Deans, as was Dave Rennie. Both coaches dumped from NZ and promoted to Australia as our saviour. And the Tahs lap them up knowing they are second rate and knowing that under pressure when their short comings are exposed in Australia as well, that they will fall in below the largest most powerful province and choose second rate Tah players to save their jobs. As they do and exactly as Joe Schmidt will do. Gauranteed. Schmidt was dumped by NZ too. That’s why he went overseas. That why kiwi coaches take jobs in Australia, to try and prove they are not as bad as NZ thought they were. Then when they get found out they try and ingratiate themselves to NZ again by dragging Australian teams down with ridiculous selections and game plans. NZ rugby’s biggest problem is that it can’t yet transition from MCaw Cheatism. They just don’t know how to try and win on your merits. It is still always a contest to see how much cheating you can get away with. Without a cheating genius like McCaw, they are struggling. This I think is why my wise old mate in NZ thinks Robertson will struggle. The Crusaders are the nursery of McCaw Cheatism. Sean Fitzpatrick was probably the father of it. Robertson doesn’t know anything else but other countries have worked it out.
15 Go to commentsIt could be coincidental or prescient that the All Blacks most dominant period under Steve Hansen was when the Crusaders had their least successful period under Todd Blackadder and then the positions reversed when Razor took over the Crusaders.
15 Go to commentsDefinitely sound read everybodyexpects immediate results these days, I don't think any team would travel well at all having lost three of the most important game changers in the game,compiled with the massive injury list they are now carrying, good to see a different more in depth perspective of a coaches history.
3 Go to commentsSinckler is a really big loss for English rugby.
1 Go to commentsThanks Nick The loss of players to OS, injury and retirement is certainly not helping the Crusaders. Ditto the coach. IMO Penny is there to hold the fort and cop the flak until new players and a new coach come through,…and that's understood and accepted by Penny and the Crusaders hierarchy. I think though that what is happening with the Crusaders is an indicator of what is happening with the other NZ SRP teams…..and the other SRP teams for that matter. Not enough money. The money has come via the SR competition and it’s not there anymore. It's in France, Japan and England. Unless or until something is done to make SR more SELLABLE to the NZ/Australia Rugby market AND the world rugby market the $s to keep both the very best players and the next rung down won't be there. They will play away from NZ more and more. I think though that NZ will continue to produce the players and the coaches of sufficient strength for NZ to have the capacity to stay at the top. Whether they do stay at the top as an international team will depend upon whether the money flowing to SRP is somehow restored, or NZ teams play in the Japan comp, or NZ opts to pick from anywhere. As a follower of many sports I’d have to say that the organisation and promotion of Super Rugby has been for the last 20 years closest to the worst I’ve ever seen. This hasn't necessarily been caused by NZ, but it’s happened. Perhaps it can be fixed, perhaps not. The Crusaders are I think a symptom of this, not the cause
15 Go to commentsNo way. If you are trying to picture New Zealand rugby with an All Blacks mindset, there have been two factors instrumental to the decline of NZ rugby to date. Those are the horror that the Blues have become and, probably more so, the fixture that the Crusaders became. I don’t think it was healthy to have one team so dominant for so long, both for lack of proper representation of players from outside that environment and on the over reliance on players from within it. If you are another international side, like Ireland for example, sure. You can copy paste something succinct from one level to the next and experience a huge increase in standards, but ultimately you will not be maximizing it, which is what you need to perform to the level the ABs do. Added to that is the apathy that develops in the whole game as a result of one sides dominance. NZ, Super, and Championship rugby should all experience a boom as a result of things balancing out. That said, there is a lot of bad news happening in NZ rugby recently, and I’m not sure the game can be handled well enough here to postpone the always-there feeling of inevitable decline of rugby.
15 Go to commentsNo SA supporter miss Super Rugby - a product that is experiencing significant head wind in ANZ - the competition from rival codes are intense, match attendance figures are at a historical low and the negativity of commentators such as Kirwan and Wilson have accelerated the downward spiral in NZ. After the next RWC in 2027 sponsors will follow Qantas and start leaving in droves.
2 Go to commentsLike others, I am not seeing the connection between this edition of the Crusaders and the All Blacks future prospects under Razor. I think the analysis of the Crusaders attack recently is helpful because Razor and his coaching team used to be able to slot new guys in to their systems and see them succeed. Several of Razor’s coaches are still there so it would be surprising if the current attack and set piece has been overhauled to a great extent - but based on that analysis, it may have been. Whether it is too many new guys due to injuries or retirement or a failure of current Crusaders systems is the main question to be answered imo. It doesn’t seem relevant for the ABs.
15 Go to commentsharry potter is set in stone. he creates stability and finishes well. exactly what schmidt likes. he’s the ben smith of australian rugby. i think it could quite easily be potter toole and kellaway for the foreseeable future.
5 Go to commentsThis is short sighted from Clayton if you ask me, smacks of too much preseason planning and no adaptability. What if DMac is out for a must win match, are they still only going to bring their best first five and playmaker on late in the game? Trusting the game to someone who wasn’t even part of planning (they would have had Trask pinned in as Jacomb preseason). Perhaps if the Crusaders were better they would not have done this, but either way imo you take this opportunity to play a guy you might need starting in a final rather than having their 12th game getting comfortable coming off the bench.
1 Go to commentsThanks Brett.. At last a positive article on the potential of Wallaby candidates, great to read. Schmidt’s record as an international rugby coach speaks for itself, I’m somewhat confident he will turn the Wallaby’s fortunes around …. on the field. It will be up to others to steady the ship off the paddock. But is there a flaw in my optimism? We have known all along that Australia has the players to be very competitive with their international rivals. We know that because everyone keeps telling us. So why the poor results? A question that requires a definitive answer before the turn around can occur. Joe Schmidt signed on for 2 years, time to encompass the Lions tour of 2025. By all accounts he puts family first and that’s fair enough, but I would wager that his 2 year contract will be extended if the next 18 months or so shows the statement “Australia has the players” proves to be correct. The new coach does not have a lot of time to meld together an outfit that will be competitive in the Rugby Championship - it will be interesting to see what happens. It will be interesting to see what happens with Giteau law, the new Wallaby coach has already verbalised that he would to prefer to select from those who play their rugby in Australia. His first test in charge is in July just over 3 months away .. not a long time. I for one wish him well .. heaven knows Australia needs some positive vibes.
21 Go to commentsWhat a load of bollocks. The author has forgotten to mention the fact that the Crusaders have a huge injury toll with top world class players out. Not to mention the fact that they are obviously in a transition period. No this will not spark a slow death for NZ rugby, but it does mean there will be a new Super Rugby champion. Anyone who knows anything about NZ rugby knows that there is some serious talent here, it just isn’t all at the Crusaders.
15 Go to commentsI wouldn’t spend the time on Nawaqanitawase! No point in having him filling in a jersey when he’s committed to leave Union. Give the jersey to a young prospect who will be here in the future.
5 Go to commentsIt was a pleasure to watch those guys playing with such confidence. That trio can all be infuriating for different reasons and I can see why Jones might have decided against them. No way to justify leaving Ikitau out though. Jorgensen and him were both scheduled to return at the same time. Only one of them plays for Randwick and has a dad who is great mates with the national coach though.
53 Go to commentsBrayden Iose and Peter Lakai are very exciting Super Rugby players but are too short and too light to ever be a Test 8 vs South Africa, France, Ireland, and England, Lakai could potentially be a Test player at 7 if he is allowed to focus on 7 for Hurricanes.
7 Go to commentsPencils “Thomas du Toit” into possible 2027 Bok squad.
1 Go to commentsDon’t see why Harrison makes the bench. Jones can play at 10 if needed, and there is a good case for starting her there to begin with if testing combinations. That would leave room for Sing on the bench
1 Go to commentsWhat a load of old bull!
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