Welsh great disagrees with Jonny Wilkinson over failed Ford drop goal

I agree with Bigs. I understand the argument of hindsight bias but I gotta say I think England are still going to the boot far too often in too many situations. Under Borthwick we've had a couple of false dawns now where it looked like the team were breaking free of this negative, stats driven methodology and we keep slipping back into it. Time and again England kick the ball away when France, NZ, SA would not have done so. Who are we trying to emulate here? England are a much more dangerous side when they kick less and hit the gain line at pace. We shouldn't need to be relying on drop goals to beat Scotland. Scotland won because they played in the first half with much more ambition and energy. By the time England pulled their fingers out in the second half they were chasing the game.

Even the WonderPoshBoy Bollock couldn't do anything to help. So much for all the building up in the pompress about him and his team. Not surprising they didn't perform. And while they had a one man advantage for quite a while it was fantastic to watch the Scottish backs running so well. Special hats off to Steyn and Jones, the SA connections.

I always thought Biggs chirped too much on the pitch, but his analysis is spot on, here. He’s also excellent on the Rugby Pod with Big Jim and Goodie.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. It's very easy to look at the “magnificent mauling” of Wales last week, and instead see an ill disciplined, inaccurate team running riot against a much, much poorer one, putting an unhelpful shine on a poor performance

The decision wasn’t by any means “Match defining”

What was match defining was Englands complete inability to bring any intensity or pace to their game, and their utter failure to adapt in real time to what was happening in front of them, nor change a one dimensional game plan that was patently giving them zero returns.

Where were Borthwicks coiterie of leaders he's always banging on about.

Most England players yesterday gained a degree of anonymity thats usually reserved for winners of the Apprentice!!

Sorry Jonny but it was a poor decision. The setup for it was poor as Fagerson had a clear run at Ford, and Ford wasn’t far enough back from the ruck. Even if he scored it they were still two scores behind so wouldn’t have changed the complexion of the game. Ford may have a great skill set but he lacks vision and too quickly resorts to kicking

But the charge shows how alert Scotland were. The drop felt slightly unanticipated but Scotland saw the signs and were there. Scotland were very forensic at working England out. They have the chin hairs and experience to turn such knowledge into victories. Hire an up and coming coach to deep dive ALL top flight opponents. Pay him/her apprentice wages for the honour but get the deep dive. It suits Scotland.

Agree with Biggar.

2 greats have differing opinions.

However . Fords pathetic attempt at chasing back to rectify his mistake sums up his lack of speed and therefore his liability now at international level .Too slow and predictable and no ability to play any differently if the game needs it .