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'They're just 15 blokes' - Former England lock insists All Black admiration must end

The All Blacks. Photo / Getty Images

Former England lock Geoff Parling – a member of the last England team to beat the All Blacks – believes that opponents need to stop treating the New Zealand national side as if they are different, despite their history.

“I’ve always been frustrated in the past, maybe not just the northern hemisphere teams but anyone playing New Zealand,” Parling told Stuff.

“The way they get spoken about in the press after the games.

“You get beaten off them, well that’s not good enough, because you’ve lost an international game regardless of how good they are.

“You have to respect them but Ireland have certainly shown they’re just 15 blokes on the pitch.

“They’re very good rugby playing blokes but it’s still just 15 blokes.”

35-year-old Parling – now a coach with the Melbourne Rebels – understands why the All Blacks are held in such high regard, but believes the admiration must end.

“The first thing is that they are good, consistently good, so I suppose they have something to back up what people say about them,” he said.

“And when people play against them, if they’ve played them five times and they’d lost five times it probably seeps in.

“It’s there for a reason, they are good, but look at what Ireland did, look at when other teams pushed them.”

Parling also weighed in on the state of Australian rugby, given his standing with the Rebels as a player and now a coach.

“They’ve got athletes,” he told Stuff.

“When they played Ireland I’d say if you looked at the natural-born ability of some of the athletes in the Wallaby team, it’s probably bigger than most of the Irish team.

“It’s just getting these athletes and working out how best to use them and getting them functioning as a team, because that’s what Ireland did to beat the All Blacks.”

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Parling began his career in 2003 with Newcastle and made his debut for England in 2012. He had a stint in Japan before joining the Rebels in 2018.

The lock notched 29 tests for England from 2012 to 2015 and made three appearances for the British and Irish Lions on their 2013 tour of Australia.

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Tom 33 minutes ago
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Well… I'd say the modern Boks are not a particularly violent team but it's impossible to getaway with much violence on an international rugby field now. The Boks of yesteryear were at times brutal. Whether or not the reputation is justified, they do have that reputation amongst a lot of rugby fans.

As for point 2.. it's a tricky one, I don't want to slander a nation here. I'm no “Bok hater”, but I've gotta say some Bok fans are the most obnoxious fans I've personally encountered. Notably this didn't seem to be a problem until the Boks became the best in the world. I agree that fans from other nations can be awful too, every nation has it's fair share of d-heads but going on any rugby forum or YouTube comments is quite tedious these days owing to the legions of partisan Bok fans who jump onto every thread regardless of if it's about the Boks to tell everyone how much better the Boks are than everyone else. A Saffa once told me that SA is a troubled country and because of that the Boks are a symbol of SA victory against all odds so that's why the fans are so passionate. At least you recognise that there is an issue with some Bok fans, that's more than many are willing to concede. Whatever the reason, it's just boring is all I can tell you and I can say coming from a place of absolute honesty I encounter far, far more arrogance and obnoxious behaviour from Bok fans than any other fanbase - the kiwis were nothing like this when they were on top. So look much love to SA, I bear no hatred of ill will, I just want to have conversations about rugby without being told constantly that the Boks are the best team in the world and all coaches except Rassie are useless etc



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