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The Joe Schmidt question emerging for resurgent Wallabies

Joe Schmidt prior to Australia's recent win over England (Photo by Clive Rose/Getty Images)

The Wallabies are going toe-to-toe with the big dogs of World Rugby once again after some lowly years fans would rather forget, and in the wake of their latest performance, the impending departure of coach Joe Schmidt has come into sharp focus.

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In recent years, beating the Springboks at Ellis Park would have been seen as something akin to a fluke. But with the weekend’s rampant 38-22 victory in Johannesburg coming after a Lions series that turned in the Wallabies’ favour as it progressed, and after an Autumn Nations Series where Six Nations heavyweights were felled, the result is seemingly indicative of something greater.

The Wallabies might just be finding their mojo again, with new stars shining and old heads returning to form. The man at the helm, though, is on his way out the door.

Joe Schmidt has attempted to leave international rugby behind on several occasions over the past few years, but the game has resisted his departure. The All Blacks came calling ahead of the 2023 Rugby World Cup, and then the Wallabies’ top job opened up following the tournament. Schmidt has answered the call and prolonged his Test career time and time again.

However, an end date has now been set, with Queensland Reds coach Les Kiss in line to inherit the Wallabies whistle in mid-2026, meaning Schmidt will finally bid farewell to the arena he has contributed so much to.

While the Kiwi will leave the gold jersey in a far better place than where he found it, the recent uptick in results under his stewardship has pundits wondering ‘what if’.

“The one concern I have looking forward is, man, how important is Joe Schmidt and his departure going to be? It just seems like, if they could keep him around for a home Rugby World Cup, it would be massive,” former All Black James Parsons said on the Aotearoa Rugby Pod.

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“And it’s nothing against Les Kiss, bring Les Kiss on the journey, but man, he’s (Schmidt’s) finally got the cut-through you need. To then remove him is big.”

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While the podcast panel conceded that that ship had sailed, former Crusaders halfback Bryn Hall put forward the idea of keeping Schmidt in the Rugby Australia ecosystem with a Director of Rugby-type role.

“Somehow, you’ve got to have him in there,” he said. “They’ve found this window now that they’ve broken through, through the British & Irish Lions Series, getting the win in South Africa. I know there are bigger reasons why he doesn’t want to be with the Wallabies post this year, but I thought exactly the same thing; how can we keep him around, because it seems like they’re on a trajectory going up.”

Schmidt has made clear his desire to spend more time at home with his family and his son in particular, who has severe epilepsy.

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James Parsons had strong doubts over Hall’s idea of offering Schmidt a different role to stay attached to the Wallabies, saying it wouldn’t happen, but again emphasised how significant the coach’s departure could be.

“Him leaving will leave a hole. If they back (the Springboks win) up, and then they have results in the Bledisloe, you’d be crazy not to try and convince him to hang around.”

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Tom 1 hour ago
Change at the top is only answer for England – Andy Goode

We aren't miles ahead of any other nation in terms of talent at all. I agree Borthwick is a mediocre coach but let's not get carried away. France have won the u20 world cup three out of the last five times and just beat us in both the u20 and u18 six nations… and I don't think many people would claim we've got more talent than SA or the ABs either. Ibitoye isn't someone you want in a test match, he's so unpredictable. In a tight test match there are very few scoring opportunities for wingers but there are lots of opportunities for wingers to make defensive misreads and balls things up. In a tightly contested, low scoring game, you'd much rather have someone like Feyi Wabosi who has X factor but can be relied upon to defend properly or not have a brain farts, we've got other good wingers without needing Ibitoye.

I agree in general with your sentiment but we should be realistic. We've won the u20 WC once in the last decade, won the six nations only twice. A prem club hasn't won anything in Europe since Bristol won the challenge cup when they had Piutau, Radradra. There is talent out there for sure but our clubs and u20s aren't enjoying the level of success which could support statements about us having the most talent in the world. If a new coach comes in they aren't going to wave a magic wand and make us the best team in the world. There are a lot of structural problems and engrained attitudes which need to be overcome within the RFU and Prem etc. Plus any new coach is going to have to undo the damage Borthwick and Wigglesworth have done. They're going to have their work cut out for them.



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