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Tamati Ellison: All Blacks on 'same page but maybe not the same line'

LONDON, ENGLAND - NOVEMBER 15: Leicester Fainga'anuku of New Zealand scores his team's first try during the Quilter Nations Series 2025 rugby international match between England and New Zealand at Allianz Stadium on November 15, 2025 in London, England. (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

The All Blacks‘ third loss of the calendar year sparked considerable backlash across the Shaky Isles, and while the team largely sought the positives, some concessions have been made.

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Defence coach Tamati Ellison has come under heightened scrutiny, in particular, with the 33 points conceded in the England defeat coming with the backdrop of September’s 43-10 pummelling at the hands of the Springboks.

The assistant coach cut a typically relaxed tone when reflecting on the loss this week, offering some context on the challenge England posed and what the upcoming Wales game could have in store.

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“We played Aussie, the Argies, and then the Irish, all within kind of the same time period, teams that overload edges and swing and short pass,” Ellison explained to former All Black Israel Dagg on the Sport Nation radio station.

“Then the Scots and English are quite deliberate. They’ll carry hard and low to try and generate quick ball for the drivers to play flat and on top of you. So adjusting to that, we obviously got a couple wrong in the transition straight off the line out on the weekend, which was disappointing. It wasn’t anything special, we were numbered up. It was more tackle execution there.

“We were more deliberate here, and maybe the weather dictates that. You’re not moving the ball three, four, five passes on a play. It’s a one-pass play to try and play flat and fast on top here, then use a kick.

“But the Welsh are actually probably the highest ball-pass-play team in the Six Nations. So they like to move the ball, get it to the edges. That’s where they feel like they can hurt teams.”

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The former All Black emphasised the key to defence being effort, both in the collision and around the field; the latter being a heightened factor as the new escort rules bring the contestable kicking game more to the fore.

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Ellison was then asked point-blank whether he thinks the team’s coaches and players are on the same page.

“I think so, I really do. There are times when you might be on the same page, but maybe not on the same line, so you have to make adjustments there and make sure you have conversations.

“But also, it takes time to build deep trust as well. So making sure that once that trust is built, we’re vulnerable enough to have those conversations, then it’s a lot easier to get onto the same line, and then we’re singing.”

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The All Blacks have just one Test remaining in 2025 to inspire some more positivity in the fanbase about the team’s direction, and have flipped the selection script for the occasion.

Wales will face a brand-new starting XV, with 13 changes from the side that lost to England. Ellison said the selections aren’t the only thing different about the response to the loss.

“It’s been a little bit different to the couple of losses we had earlier this year, just because it’s so quick; you travel, and get up here to Cardiff, and we’ve got to make sure that we’re at All Blacks standard in our preparation this week.

“You have to learn fast, so the mindset has been what learning can we take from the game and what’s important this week, to set the 23 up.”

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MK 14 days ago

Hey Ellison, why not have a look at the results in defense against Argentina, The Boks and England. We got whacked, simple as that. You can speak in forked tongue but honestly, no wonder there is no improvement. You guys will get annihilated in Sth Africe unless you have a good hard look at yourself

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cw 15 days ago

What is really annoying is the lack of straight talking and lack of accountability. It was the same gobbledegook after the Wellington game. Not on the same line - is that code for they had their timing wrong (Carter) or were confused about who they were marking (Tupaea,Proctor) or they were just overwhelmed at times (the whole team).

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Jbo 15 days ago

The Razor coaching ticket have hoodwinked the NZ public and are now getting caught out. Here we all thought Razor was the genius guy coaching his teams, but he’s just the culture guy. Like Ted Lasso. Hansen is the actual headcoach of this All Blacks side (and why Leon left) and we’re now suffering for it, scraping by thanks solely to players trying to piece this nonsense together. NZR - get a real coach in with actual international tactical experience for the love of god.

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johnz 15 days ago

I don't know if we were hoodwinked. Razor can't have had all his success by being a bad coach. The inexperienced team is as much NZR’s fault as anyone's because of their faulty recruitment process. They should never have signed off such an inexperienced team after the foster debacle. I have to admit, I'm surprised by razor's lack of ideas and innovation. I put that down to the guy being under pressure and losing his swagger. He's feeling fear. And when we operate from a place of fear, the creative and analytical parts of our brains shut down.

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johnz 15 days ago

Every time I hear or read an interview from an AB coach, my confidence goes down a notch. As Razor admitted, they are all learning on the job. What a complete nonsense that the world’s greatest rugby brand hired a team full of international amateurs. It’s no wonder nobody can articulate what’s going wrong, or what the grand plan is, because they’re genuinely trying to work it out, week to week.


I am confused why Tamati said they were more deliberate, with fewer phases and earlier kicking. Because of the weather? I was at Twickenham, and we all commented how fantastic the conditions were. Did they plan for rain and get surprised by dry weather? Is that why Sititi was swapped for the underperforming Parker, and LF was swapped for the blunt weapon Proctor?


The thing we noticed at the ground was how narrow the ABs played. It was like watching primary school bullrush, with all the attack concentrated around the middle of the field, leaving acres of dry Twickenham space on the edges.


Even the selection for Wales inspired no confidence there is someunderlying vision in place. This was an opportunity to experiment a little, and take some risks which might have considerable upside.


Love at 10 might have been one option. LF again at 13, or even 12 could offer something new. Seeing Tangitau playing at this level (albeit against woeful Wales) would be worthwhile. The search for a deputy to Roigard is now desperate, yet they bring a guy likely on his last tour to have 20 minutes off the bench. While our 1000th centre pairing in as many games, features two guys who look in the twilights of their careers.


Another opportunity to build for the future and reveal some innovation and imagination has been wasted. Instead, a bunch of senior guys who were not good enough to be selected during peak season, get a consolation run.


A serious change in the coaching setup is required if this team has any hope of competing for the WC. I’m not sure if Razor is the guy, but if he is, he needs to make a big call this summer and admit to NZR that his assistants are not working. If not, the ABs will continue to be out thought, out innovated and out played by the likes of the Boks and England who are coaching from a higher level at the moment. While our brains trust are firmly stuck in the woods.

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Karlos G 15 days ago

Took the thoughts right out of my head, a well written piece and a 100% correct, if some major changes are not made the All Blacks legacy is in trouble, we’re likely to become like the Wallabies(no disrespect guys but have been average for 10 years)

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jclaytonf 16 days ago

What a load of nonsense. Razor either needs to get his coaches and team aligned or get some new boys PDQ. My strong suspicion is that Scott Hansen is a big problem in terms of team dynamics and needs to move on.

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GL 16 days ago

Are all the ABs coaches delusional now? I thought Scott Hansen was the worst at spewing BS but now all of them are doing it…what is aligned on page but on the same line? Surprised by England?

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