'We had some players who probably weren't capable... we had to get rid of an awful lot'
This past week has been quite the sight for Mark Tainton at Bristol, the Bears’ plush new training ground opening for business and accommodating the jaw-dropping sight of swashbuckling signings such as Semi Radradra and Kyle Sinckler on the prowl ahead of their Gallagher Premiership restart on August 15 when Saracens visit Ashton Gate.
It’s all had an immediate galvanising effect as the Bears seek to pick up the thread of a season suspended in March due to the coronavirus pandemic, a stoppage that will see the club chase after the top-flight title with a very different complexion to four months ago.
The world has changed in the interim and so too have Bristol, their third-place squad getting hugely overhauled as it returns to an English rugby landscape still adjusting to the myriad of slings and arrows prompted by the pandemic.
Rancour has run rife through the sport in England but the atmosphere is seemingly all sweetness and light at Bristol as they rejoin the battle for eagerly desired success.
Their long-term ambitions may have suffered a bloody nose over the course of the layoff, but their initial resistance to the Premiership’s reduced salary cap – which comes into play next year – has given way to a compromising U-turn and a renewed sense of purpose that apparently hasn’t been blighted either by the enforced player pay cuts that caused consternation at some other clubs.
It hasn’t been a good look for the sport, the various grubby faction fighting that has taken place, but Bristol CEO Tainton believes across the board peace and goodwill will relievingly break out just as soon as the games get going next month and people start focusing on match results rather than the challenging financials that have dominated the rugby narrative these past 17 weeks.
“It definitely will (settle down),” said Tainton to RugbyPass. “Obviously, there have been a few disagreements which is understandable where we are at the moment. People will look after certain areas of their business and they are right to try and protect their business.
“But once rugby starts playing again and we don’t get a second (virus) spike or anything like that, it will just grow back into where we were. Hopefully, these disagreements will be settled very quickly and we will all work together to make the Premiership one of the best leagues in the world again.”
Bristol’s glamorous recruitment policy is certainly poised to play its part in ensuring that revitalised status materialises. With potency such as Charles Piutau already on their books, their creativity habitually elicits envious glances from their rivals and draws local fans to Ashton Gate in record numbers.
But now, even though there is no indication yet that crowds can safely return to matches, their stylish menace is set to become even more threatening with the arrival of Radradra and co. However, they are well aware they will need to cut their cloth accordingly in future with the salary cap reduction signed, sealed and eventually agreed after a period of blood-letting and hand-wringing.
“We have got this salary cap coming in so it’s going to be more difficult for every club to attract top-end players on a financial basis because the salaries are being cut to meet the salary cap,” admitted Tainton, who is banking on the burgeoning Bristol reputation making up for the reduced remuneration packages.
“We believe we have got one of the best rugby stadiums in the country, we now believe we have the best training centre in the country and that is not bragging, that is just factual of what we have managed to develop over the last year or so.
“The player who wants to come to us, they want the best facilities to work at and we have built our coaching staff up to what we think is one of the best in the league as well. It’s also about coming to the club to develop yourself and become a better player and a better person and if we continue to do that we will be able to attract top-end players to play at Bristol.
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“For the salary cap to be reduced it will put a strain on clubs’ negotiations with players to make sure they come within that salary cap going forward after next season. We initially wanted to keep the salary cap where it was and keep the two marquee players. We went out and said that and our reasons were quite transparent.
“We felt that if we didn’t agree with something and we wanted to put our point forward we should do it and not be silent and let other people dictate what is going on. Obviously, every club is in different situations and the situation we have we wanted to voice our opinion to make sure everyone was understood and also to give clarity to our staff and to our players what our intentions were.
“We believe we want to keep the Premiership as potentially the best league in the world and to make sure we had the best players in the league, but the clubs have had the salary cap reduced and to reduce the marquee number of players was going to have a major factor in that.
“Look, when we sat around the table there was negotiation and you have got to give and take in these situations. We got some things that we wanted in the meeting and the other clubs got things that they wanted. I had total understanding and empathy with all the other clubs and what their situation is so we have got to make sure we can make it viable and workable for all the clubs in the league.
“We’re probably in a better situation than most, but that is just the way they have ruled in this one. All we can say is we recruited what we wanted now, we have our squad of players and they are all happy in the negotiating we have done for them or on their behalf going forward.”
The recent Lord Myners salary cap recommendations laid bare the precarious financials of the England game, its findings emphasising how collective losses of just short of £89million were recorded in the combined year-end 2017 and 2018 accounts.
Professional rugby is clearly an expensive business and while Tainton is doubtful it can eventually realise any lavish profits, he believes Bristol are capable of becoming sustainable and ring-fencing of the Premiership is something he would like to see added to the mix to help make this happen.
“Profits I’m not sure about but the clubs can become more sustainable. We have a plan that Steve Lansdown and the board put in place before the Covid-19 came in, a five-year plan to try and get the club sustainable. That has been pushed back slightly because of this situation. But it is our target and if we carry on generating the crowds we had up to when Covid stopped play, there is no reason why that (sustainability) won’t be the case.
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“Ring-fencing will still be on the agenda,” he added. “Mainly because the Championship at the moment, the amount of money that they have lost and a lot of the clubs have already said they are going to go semi-professional.
“That is an ongoing negotiation that will be brought to the table pretty soon again. Where am I on that? I’m probably a fan of ring-fencing personally. It makes a club more stable and allows you to invest knowing where you are going to be the following year.
“With that threat of relegation there was always the question of will sponsors stay or will they move on? On the other side, it is exciting – relegation and promotion are exciting and supporters like it. But at the moment there are 13 franchises in Premiership Rugby and my thoughts are I am for ring-fencing… I think it will happen.”
Whatever plays out, Tainton will make a point of keeping the Bristol players and staff in the loop. It’s an open book approach that stood to them during the lockdown whereas some rival clubs were beset by disenchantment about a lack of communication.
"Guys were messaging each other on Instagram: 'Like bro, I'm hearing you are getting pay cuts'. This is guys from other English clubs and I'm just like, 'Bro I have no f***in' clue'"
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“It’s important,” insisted Tainton about being approachable and accountable. “We tried to be as transparent as we could to all our players in what we did and how we tried to do it and what the future looks like. We had regular Zoom calls with them to give them updates on where we were, what we were doing and what our future looks like. They were very, very appreciative of that.
“At the moment we have got a very happy camp. Everyone is training really well in the new facility and they can’t wait to get back playing. They are professional rugby players and they want to play rugby.
“All going well we will be playing on that weekend in August, be it behind closed doors or even with small crowds. We don’t know yet but we just need to get back playing for the players’ sanity to a large degree and our coaches’ sanity. That is what they are employed to do and that is what they want to do. The reaction we have had this week, it has been a good starting base to restart the season.
“The boys were in for the first time on Monday for testing – we had a 100 per cent all-clear from the testing – and they were blown away with the facilities. For us, it has come at a great time to give everyone a boost… I’m on my way to the training ground now and every time I drive through the gate, drive down the driveway and see what we have developed there, it’s magnificent.
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“No-one really knew the severity of Covid-19 (when rugby stopped in March). We all thought we’d be back playing sooner than we are now, but it is what it is… we’re on a journey and we are getting there.
“We are all working towards that weekend of the 15th to start playing rugby again. I will be massively excited the players will be playing again, but having in mind that no-one tests positive the following week for Covid and put a halt on things.”
Already, the presence of Radradra is having an uplifting uptick on preparations. “He is probably one of the best players in world rugby at the moment. I’m excited about seeing him put the Bristol shirt on and playing at Ashton Gate,” said Tainton enthusiastically.
“It has been great to watch him coming to our new environment and how professional he is. Already that is rubbing off on some of the younger players. If they can pick up great trends from him it can only benefit the club going forward.”
In the record books as the club’s all-time record scorer, Tainton is chuffed at the ambition of the Bristol compared to what he found when he became caretaker head coach during the 2016/17 relegation season that resulted in Andy Robinson’s sacking.
He had been a long time removed from the Bristolian scene having carved out a successful kicking coach reputation abroad with Grand Slam-winning Ireland and being the voice regularly giving tuition to the likes of Ronan O’Gara and Johnny Sexton.
Rather than get pushed aside upon Pat Lam’s arrival, Tainton diverted into a chief operations role that has since resulted in him being promoted to CEO and being to the fore in the collective blueprint that has Bristol lifting Champions Cup and Premiership titles.
“I pinch myself. I’m very pleased and massively proud to be CEO of the Bears. It’s a club I played all my rugby at and to come back full circle and be the CEO of the business now is fantastic… it was (daunting), but I was fortunate. In my time in Ireland, you got to spend an awful lot of time with very good business people and very good rugby minds, and I still have contact with people over there that I respect massively and take advice from. I’ve built myself into the role.
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“The initial thing is the separation you get from players in the role I’m in now. You don’t have the day to day contact with them. You have got to take a step back, got to look at are they right for the club, are we paying the right kind of salaries for them, are we paying too many salaries for them, are there better people we can bring in, can we move them on?
“That is one of the challenging things but I have grown into it. I’m into my third year now and it’s enjoyable. You learn all the time and as long as you improve at what you’re doing day by day and week by week, it can only benefit everyone.
“It is night and day (compared to 2017),” added Tainton, comparing ailing Bristol back then to how they shape up now under Lam’s shrewd stewardship. “We had some players who probably weren’t capable of playing week in, week out in the Premiership. We had to get rid of an awful lot of players and move them on.
“I thought it was going to be a struggle for a number of years, I didn’t think we would turn it around so quickly as we have. That is a credit to all the coaching and medical staff… we have developed a squad and we’re not shy of our ambitions.
“We went to go and win the Champions Cup, we want to win the Premiership and the investment we have put into the squad, into the coaching team and into the training facilities just echoes that. We just want to improve every single year and challenge the best teams. It’s not just good for the rugby club but for the whole city.”
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Comments on RugbyPass
I've never been convinced that Patty T is a test match all black. Otherwise I probably agree it's the best side available to beat the poms. Caveat that Codie Taylor is yet to be seen and could very likely warrant selection by June. I hope that Razor brings the young loosies, half backs and locks into the training squad and develops/ selects the best
7 Go to commentsYou doing the same thing I disliked about the example of Samisoni Taukei'aho, Nick. He’s great the way he is, you’re trying to do what modern-day coaches frustrate me doing, turning everyone into the perfect athlete. Next thing you’ll be telling me you’ll bench him until he’s hit that arbitrary marker, and can’t overtake the current guy who’s doing all his workons. He’s a young Kieran Read, through and through, plays wide and has threat, mainly (and evident in your clips) through his two hand carry and speed. Just let him work on that, or whatever he wants, and determine his own future. Play God and you risk the players going sideways, like Read did, instead of being a Toutai Kefu. I mean I was in the same camp for a while, wanting our tight five to have the size, and carry ability, as the teams they were getting beat by. Now I’m starting to believe those teams just have better skilled and practiced individuals, bigger by upwards of 5kg sometimes, sure, but more influentially they have those intrinsic skills of trust and awareness. Basically our guys just didn’t know wtf they were doing. Don’t think I’m trying to prove a point here but hasn’t Caleb Clarke been in much better form this year, or does he just ‘look’ better now that he’s not always trying to use his size?
43 Go to commentsThe pack lacks a little in height for the line out and I wouldn’t be completely convinced by some of the combinations till we see it in action.
7 Go to commentsThe side is good but lacks experience. International playing bona fides udually trumps super rugby form for good reason. And incumbents are usually stuck with. Codie Taylor should start or come off the bench. B Barrett will start at fullback. Blackadder has not earned the position, Finau has. TJs experience and competitiveness earns him a starting role, Christie or Ratima off the bench
7 Go to commentsPretty good side. Scott Barrett should be the captain. Ethan Blackadder a great choice at blindside. He is going to go from strength to strength having made a couple of starts for the Crusaders. Scott Robertson rates him highly. Perenara could start a no 9.
7 Go to commentsI question and with respect. Was enough done over the last few years to bring through new blood knowing the Whitelocks and co couldn’t last forever. There should have been more done to future proof the team. New squad new coach, he and they weren’t set up well. IMO
6 Go to commentsJacobsen will definitely be in the 23
7 Go to commentsLots of discussion points, Ben, but two glaring follies IMO: 1. Blackadder at 6. Has done nothing so far this season to justify his selection. Did you see him going backwards in contact at the weekend? Simply has not got the physical presence at 6: we need a Scott Barrett or a Finau (or wildcard Ah Kuoi), beasts who are big enough to play lock, like Frizzell. If Barret played at 6, Paddy could be joined at lock by Vai’i or one of the young giants we need to promote, like Darry or Lord (if he ever gets on the field). Blackadder best left to join the queue for 7. 2. Not even a mention for Christie? Ratima gets caught at crucial times at the back of the ruck when he hesitates on the pass. The only way he starts would be if Christie and TJ are injured.
7 Go to commentsWhat a dagg in more ways than one
6 Go to commentsRegroup come back next year but sack some of the coaching team and don't be like the ABs last minute sacking. If Crusaders don't do well ABs don't do well.
5 Go to commentsProctor Definitely inform again this year had a hell of a season last year and this year is looking even better. Still mixed feelings about Ioane tho.
4 Go to commentsDagg is still trying to get enough headlines to make himself relevant enough to get a job. The Crusaders went back to square one at all levels. Shelve this season and nail the next one.
6 Go to commentsHe was in such great form. Sad for him but only a short term injury and it will be great to see him back for the finals.
1 Go to commentsAfter their 5/0 start, I had the Crusaders to finish Top 4 only…they lost the plot in Perth but will reload and back themselves vs 4th placed Rebels…
5 Go to commentsBoth nations missed a great opportunity to book a game that would have had a lot of interest from around the world. I understand these games can’t be organised in 5 minutes but they should have found a way to make it happen. I don’t think Wales are ducking anyone but it’s a bad look haha.
3 Go to commentsIt will be fascinating to see the effect that Jo Yapp has. If they can compete with Canada and give BFs a run for their money that will be progress
1 Go to commentsFollowing his dream and putting in the work. Go well young fella!
3 Go to commentsPerhaps filling Twickenham is one of Mitchell’s KPIs. I doubt whether both September matches will be at Twickenham on consecutive weekends. I would take the BF one to a large provincial stadium so as not to give them the advantage and experience of playing at Twickenham before a large crowd prior to the RWC.
3 Go to commentsvery unfortunate for Kitshoff, but big opportunity potentially for Nché to prove he is genuinely the best loosehead in the world, rather than just a specialist finisher. Presuming that if Kitshoff is out, it will also give Steenekamp a chance to come into the 23? Or are others likely to be ahead of him?
1 Go to commentsA long held question in popular culture asks if art imitates life or does the latter influence the former? Over this 6 nations I can ask the same question of the media influencing the thoughts of its audience or vice versa. Nobody wants to see cricket scores in rugby, as a spectacle it is not sustainable. With so many articles about England’s procession and lack of competition it feeds the epicaricacy of many looking for an opportunity to pounce. England are not the first team to dominate nor does it happen only in rugby, think Federer, Nadal, Red Bull or Mercedes, Manchester Utd, Australia in tests and World Cups. Instead of celebrating the achievements why find reasons to falsify it pointing towards larger playing pool, professional for a longer period or mitigate with the lack of growth in other nations. Can we not enjoy it while it is here and know that it won’t last for ever, others coveting what England have will soon take the crown, ask the aforementioned?
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