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Brad Thorn comments cast serious doubt on his Reds future
Brad Thorn has cast serious doubt over his immediate coaching future after the Queensland Reds unravelled to hand the ACT Brumbies their first win in Brisbane since 2015.
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The Reds led 17-15 just before the break but lost their way in the second half, defeated 52-24 at Suncorp Stadium in a Good Friday meltdown that left the proud coach “gutted”.
Dual code marvel Thorn has overseen a cultural overhaul since taking the reins in 2018, blooding a host of raw talents and lifting the Super Rugby AU title in 2021.
But at 2-5 and likely to be out of the top eight by round’s end, he said he had “possibly” taken the side as far as he could.
“Tonight hurts because it (a heavy loss at home) can’t happen,” said Thorn, who is off contract after this season.
“End of the day it’s on me. I’m a fighter by nature, I like challenges, but it’s a disappointing one tonight.
“I like to contribute. When it’s not going so well, it’s tough.”
Thorn said last week he hadn’t given proper thought to his next move after 30 continuous years as a rugby league or rugby union player and coach.
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On Friday night he looked a beaten man, but when asked if he expected to remain in the job for the back half of the season, he replied: “I’m not a quitter.”
“Who knows in coaching,” he said. “I’m not a quitter; I’ll continue to put my heart in and that other stuff’s out of my hands.”
The Reds started sharply and led 14-7 when halfback Tate McDermott ran 55m and beat five men to score a terrific solo try.
But again indiscipline haunted them, with Angus Blyth red-carded in the eighth minute for a high shot on Corey Toole that could lead to him being suspended for the rest of the regular season.
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More penalties piggy-backed the Brumbies forward and a late try while down a man themselves – after Tom Wright was yellow carded for a professional foul on a rampaging Jordan Petaia – gave the visitors a surprise halftime lead.
They scored five tries in a one-sided second half as the wheels fell off for the hosts in their first loss to an Australian side at Suncorp Stadium in 15 matches.
Brumbies five-eighth Noah Lolesio – like McDermott overlooked for Eddie Jones’ first Wallabies squad – controlled the game superbly and kicked all seven attempts in his own statement performance.
The hoodoo-busting win improved the Brumbies to 6-1 and second place on the live Super Rugby Pacific ladder.
Coach Stephen Larkham stuck up for the Reds, echoing Thorn’s contention the side was better than their current standing.
“It’s a tough one isn’t it? Small margins really,” Larkham said of a Reds side who have suffered narrow losses to the Rebels and Crusaders in recent weeks.
“I don’t think they deserve to be where they are on the table.
“Tonight it was only at the 70, 75th minute mark that we felt comfortable.”
Larhkham said if he were Thorn, he would “like to know that the people around you are supporting you”.
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It couldn’t have been Ryan Crotty. He wasn’t selected in either World Cup side - they chose Money Bill instead. And Money Bill only cared about himself, and that manager he had, not the team.
25 Go to commentsYawn 🥱 nobody would give a hoot about this new trophy. End of the day we just have to beat Ireland and NZ this year then they can finally shut up 🤐
13 Go to commentsTalking bout Ryan Crotty? Heard Crotty say in a interview once that SBW doesen't care about the team . He went on to say that whenever they lost a big game, SBW would be happy as if nothing happened, according to him someone who cares would look down.. Personally I think Crotty is in the wrong, not for feeling gutted but for expecting others 2 be like him… I have been a bad loser forever as it matters so much to me but good on you SBW for being able to see the bigger picture….
25 Go to commentsThis sounds like a WWE idea so Americans can also get excited about rugby, RUGBY NEEDS A INTERNATIONAL CALENDER .. The rugby Championship and Six Nations can be held at same time, top 3 of six nations and top 3 of Rugby championship (6 nations should include Georgia AND another qualifying country while Fiji, Japan and Samoa/Tonga qualifier should make out 6 Southern teams).. Scrap June internationals and year end tours. Have a Elite top six Cup and the Bottom 6 in a secondary comp….
13 Go to commentsThe rugby championship would be even stronger with Fiji in it… I know it doesen’t fit the long term plans of NZ or Aus but you are robbing a whole nation of being able to see their best players play for Fiji…. Every second player in NZ and AUS teams has Fijian surnames… shame on you!!! World rugby won’t step in either as France and England has now also joined in…. I guess where money is involved it will always be the poor countries missing out….
77 Go to commentsNo surprise there. How hard can it be to pick a ball off the ground and chuck it to a mate? 😂
2 Go to commentsSometimes people just like a moan mate!
1 Go to commentsexcellent idea ! rugby needs this 💪
13 Go to comments9 Brumbies! What a joke! The best performing team in Oz! Ditch Skelton for Swain or Neville. Ryan Lonergan ahead of McDermott any day! Best selection bolter is Toole … amazing player
12 Go to commentsI like this, but ultimately rugby already has enough trophies. Trying to make more games “consequential" might prove to be a fools errand, although this is a less bad idea than some others. Minor quibble with the title of the article; it isn’t very meaningful to say the boks are the unofficial world champions when it would be functionally impossible for the Raeburn trophy not to be held by the world champions. There’s a period of a few months every 4 years when there is no “unofficial” world champion, and the Raeburn trophy is held by the actual world champions.
13 Go to commentsIts a great idea but one that I dont think will have a lot of traction. It will depend on the prestige that they each hold but if you can do that it would be great. When Japan beat the Boks (my team) I was absolutely devestated but I wont deny the great game they played that day. We were outclassed and it was one of the best games of rugby I have seen. Using an idea like this you might just give the the underdog teams more of an opportunity to beat the big teams and I can absolutely see it being a brilliant display of rugby. They beat us because they planned for that game. It was a great moment for Japan. This way we can remove the 4 year wait and give teams something to aim for outside of World Cup years.
13 Go to commentsHi, Dave here. Happy to answer questions 🥰
13 Go to commentsDon’t think that headline is accurate. It’s great to see Aus doing better but I’m not sure they’ve shown much threat to the top of the table. They shouldn’t be inflating wins against the lousy Highlanders and Crusaders either.
3 Go to commentsSuch a shame Roigard and Aumua picked up long term injuries, probably the two form players in the comp. Also, pretty sure Clarke Dermody isn’t their coach. Got it half right though.
3 Go to commentsOh the Aussie media, they never learn. At least Andrew Kellaway is like “Woah, yeah it’s great, but settle down there guys” having endured years of the Aussie media, fans, and often their players getting ahead of themselves only to fall flat on their faces. Have the “We'll win the Bledisloe for sure this year!” headlines started yet? It’s simple to see what’s going on. The Aussie teams are settled, they didn't lose any of their major players overseas. The Crusaders and Chiefs lost key experienced All Blacks, and Razor in the Crusaders case, and clearly neither are anywhere near as strong as last year (The Canes and Blues would probably be 3rd & 4th if they were). The Highlanders are annually average, even more so post-Aaron Smith and a big squad clean out. The two teams at the top? The two nz sides with largely the same settled roster as last year, except Ardie Savea for the Canes. They’ve both got far better coaches now too. If the Aussies are going to win the title, this is the year the kiwi sides will be weakest, so they better take their chance.
3 Go to commentsThe World Cup has to be the gold standard, line in the sand. 113 teams compete for what is the opportunity to make the pool stages, and then the knockout games for the trophy. The concept is sound. This must have been the rationale when the World Cup was created, surely? But I’m all for Looking forward and finding new ways for the SH to dominate the NH into the future. The autumn series needs a change up. Let’s start by having the NH teams come south every odd year for the Autumn/Spring series games?
13 Go to commentsWhat’ll happen when the AI models of the future go back in time and try to destroy the AI models of the past standing in their way of certain victory?
44 Go to commentsThanks, Nick. We (Seanny Maloney, Brett and I) just discussed Charlie as a potential Wallaby No 8, and wondered if he has truly realised how big he is in contact (and whether he can add 5 kg w/o slowing down). Your scouting report confirms our suspicions he has the materiel. No one knows if he has the mentality (as Johann van Graan said this week about CJ, Duane and Alfie B) to carry 10-15 times a game.
57 Go to commentsHe would be a great player for the Stormers, Dobbo should approach the guy.
3 Go to commentsGood article. A few years back when he was playing for the Cheetahs, he was a quiet standout for exactly the seasons stated here. I occasionally get to see his games in the UK, and he has become a more complete player and in many ways like an Irish player. His work ethic is so suitable to the Leinster game. I wonder if Rassie would have him listed somewhere.
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