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Why an All Black loss this weekend would actually be a pretty good result for NZ rugby

By Jamie Wall

If you’re ever going to find a time when New Zealanders will be alright with an All Black loss, this weekend will be it. No, it’s not because we’re finally growing up and accepting that there’s better things to worry about than a game of rugby – although the somewhat muted acceptance of last month’s defeat to the Wallabies may be a sign that we’re heading that way.

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This weekend sees the All Blacks take on the Barbarians, a team containing 12 New Zealanders. The rest of the team is made of up South Africans, and is coached by Robbie Deans and Scott Robertson. Logically, this game should be taking place at Eden Park – but to at retain at least some of the historically Northern Hemisphere-influenced BaaBaas tradition, it’s being played at Twickenham.

Make no mistake about it: NZ Rugby has more or less co-opted the Barbarians team, just like they did last year and just like the Wallabies did last weekend. At Wembley last November, the Springboks almost found out the hard way that an invitational side full of New Zealanders isn’t a walk in the park. They were lucky to get out of the fixture with a 31-all draw, although given some of the Boks’ other results over the last couple of years a close loss probably wouldn’t have looked so bad anyway.

The Maori All Blacks will be in the UK in a week too, meaning that around 80 of NZ’s best players are all in the same place at the same time. It’s a clever move by the All Blacks, who have made no secret of the fact that they’ll be using the talent stocks available to full advantage.

So while this game, like Scotty Stevenson and Mils Muliaina said on The Short Ball, is more or less an All Black trial – so is the entire tour. There’s another game scheduled against a ‘French XV’ that will be an old school midweek tour fixture in all but name, and because of the way that the players will be geographically available it means that they didn’t have to name an extended squad to cover for it. Thanks to the Barbarians, they didn’t even have to pay for their airfares.

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Out of the BaaBaa starting backline, any of George Bridge, Julian Savea, Vince Aso, Richard Buckman and Richie Mo’unga could be on the other side wearing an All Black jersey and no one would be batting an eyelid. Even starting BaaBaa halfback and captain Andy Ellis could probably do a decent job if he was called in, and reserve Mitch Drummond is definitely in the conversation as an All Black of the future.

The All Blacks did actually lose to the Barbarians not that long ago, and that was a team stacked up with southern hemisphere players as well. That day it was Bryan Habana that did the damage, scoring a hattrick. Ironically, on the other wing was recently dropped All Black Joe Rokocoko – just like the position Julian Savea now finds himself in.

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The last proper All Black trial happened years ago, back when they used to call the teams the Probables and Possibles. For the record, the it was an upset – the Possibles got up 37-32 in Napier. But not too much of an upset to start alarm bells ringing among the All Black coaching staff, rather a happy reassurance of the arsenal they have at their disposal.

You’d have to think it’d be a similar feeling if the All Blacks end up on the wrong side of the scoresheet on Sunday morning. Because, as if it anyone needed any reminding, a Baabaas victory in this fixture would really highlight the depth that exists in New Zealand rugby right now.

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Nickers 14 minutes ago
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Sabbaticals have helped keep NZ’s very best talent in the country on long term deals - this fact has been left out of this article. Much like the articles calling to allow overseas players to be selected, yet can only name one player currently not signed to NZR who would be selected for the ABs. And in the entire history of NZ players leaving to play overseas, literally only 4 or 5 have left in their prime as current ABs. (Piatau, Evans, Hayman, Mo’unga,?) Yes Carter got an injury while playing in France 16 years ago, but he also got a tournament ending injury at the 2011 World Cup while taking mid-week practice kicks at goal. Maybe Jordie gets a season-ending injury while playing in Ireland, maybe he gets one next week against the Brumbies. NZR have many shortcomings, but keeping the very best players in the country and/or available for ABs selection is not one of them. Likewise for workload management - players missing 2 games out of 14 is hardly a big deal in the grand scheme of things. Again let’s use some facts - did it stop the Crusaders winning SR so many times consecutively when during any given week they would be missing 2 of their best players? The whole idea of the sabbatical is to reward your best players who are willing to sign very long term deals with some time to do whatever they want. They are not handed out willy-nilly, and at nowhere near the levels that would somehow devalue Super Rugby. In this particular example JB is locked in with NZR for what will probably (hopefully) be the best years of his career, hard to imagine him not sticking around for a couple more after for a Lions tour and one more world cup. He has the potential to become the most capped AB of all time. A much better outcome than him leaving NZ for a minimum of 3 years at the age of 27, unlikely to ever play for the ABs again, which would be the likely alternative.

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Mzilikazi 3 hours ago
How Leinster neutralised 'long-in-the-tooth' La Rochelle

Had hoped you might write an article on this game, Nick. It’s a good one. Things have not gone as smoothly for ROG since beating Leinster last year at the Aviva in the CC final. LAR had the Top 14 Final won till Raymond Rhule missed a simple tackle on the excellent Ntamack, and Toulouse reaped the rewards of just staying in the fight till the death. Then the disruption of the RWC this season. LAR have not handled that well, but they were not alone, and we saw Pau heading the Top 14 table at one stage early season. I would think one of the reasons for the poor showing would have to be that the younger players coming through, and the more mature amongst the group outside the top 25/30, are not as strong as would be hoped for. I note that Romain Sazy retired at the end of last season. He had been with LAR since 2010, and was thus one of their foundation players when they were promoted to Top 14. Records show he ended up with 336 games played with LAR. That is some experience, some rock in the team. He has been replaced for the most part by Ultan Dillane. At 30, Dillane is not young, but given the chances, he may be a fair enough replacement for Sazy. But that won’be for more than a few years. I honestly know little of the pathways into the LAR setup from within France. I did read somewhere a couple of years ago that on the way up to Top 14, the club very successfully picked up players from the academies of other French teams who were not offered places by those teams. These guys were often great signings…can’t find the article right now, so can’t name any….but the Tadgh Beirne type players. So all in all, it will be interesting to see where the replacements for all the older players come from. Only Lleyd’s and Rhule from SA currently, both backs. So maybe a few SA forwards ?? By contrast, Leinster have a pretty clear line of good players coming through in the majority of positions. Props maybe a weak spot ? And they are very fleet footed and shrewd in appointing very good coaches. Or maybe it is also true that very good coaches do very well in the Leinster setup. So, Nick, I would fully concurr that “On the evidence of Saturday’s semi-final between the two clubs, the rebuild in the Bay of Biscay is going to take longer than it is on the east coast of Ireland”

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Sam T 9 hours ago
Jake White: Let me clear up some things

I remember towards the end of the original broadcasting deal for Super rugby with Newscorp that there was talk about the competition expanding to improve negotiations for more money - more content, more cash. Professional rugby was still in its infancy then and I held an opposing view that if Super rugby was a truly valuable competition then it should attract more broadcasters to bid for the rights, thereby increasing the value without needing to add more teams and games. Unfortunately since the game turned professional, the tension between club, talent and country has only grown further. I would argue we’re already at a point in time where the present is the future. The only international competitions that matter are 6N, RC and RWC. The inter-hemisphere tours are only developmental for those competitions. The games that increasingly matter more to fans, sponsors and broadcasters are between the clubs. Particularly for European fans, there are multiple competitions to follow your teams fortunes every week. SA is not Europe but competes in a single continental competition, so the travel component will always be an impediment. It was worse in the bloated days of Super rugby when teams traversed between four continents - Africa, America, Asia and Australia. The percentage of players who represent their country is less than 5% of the professional player base, so the sense of sacrifice isn’t as strong a motivation for the rest who are more focused on playing professional rugby and earning as much from their body as they can. Rugby like cricket created the conundrum it’s constantly fighting a losing battle with.

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