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LONG READ ‘Another defeat against bogey team South Africa will really give France les bleus’

‘Another defeat against bogey team South Africa will really give France les bleus’
1 month ago

It’s two years and one month since France last played the Springboks. It is a match that still haunts many of the Bleus. In a recent interview Thomas Ramos, France’s full-back, admitted that it took a year before he was able to watch highlights of the 29-28 defeat.

In an interview in Monday’s Midi Olympique, Laurent Labit, France’s backs’ coach in that stunning World Cup quarter-final clash, said it was the “hardest defeat” of his long coaching career. ‘Trauma’ was the word used by head coach Fabien Galthié in early 2024, admitting that he “underwent a long period of strong introspection” in the weeks after the loss.

Saturday’s Test match at the Stade de France is a chance then for revenge, but it’s also an opportunity for South Africa to strike an early psychological blow two years out from the 2027 World Cup. Beat France again on their home patch and recently healed wounds will reopen. The Boks, as the saying goes, will be living rent-free in French heads.

Siya Kolisi
South Africa have happy memories of the Stade de France having won their last four Tests there, including the 2023 RWC quarter-final (Photo Harry Murphy/Sportsfile via Getty Images)

The omens are not good for France. They have beaten South Africa once in their last nine Tests (a 30-26 victory in Marseille in November 2022), stretching back 15 years. Four of those defeats have been at the Stade de France, a stadium that the Springboks clearly like. The last time France beat South Africa in Paris was 2005.

Coach Rassie Erasmus is being courtesy personified ahead of the Test. “We know what it’s like to play France away from home,” he said this week. “The passion, intensity and atmosphere in which you play there is very different.”

Is there passion and intensity in the Stade de France? One French broadcaster described the stadium in 2023 as “a very cold venue, structurally unsuited to creating an electric atmosphere”.

France playing their Test matches in Paris is like England’s HQ being in Liverpool. It’s nonsensical.

There is without doubt atmosphere in Marseille, where France beat South Africa in 2022 and 2002, as well as Toulouse, scene of another famous Bleus win in 2009. These cities are southern ones, in the heartland of French rugby, where the climate, like the temperament, is hotter.

France is unique among the top rugby nations in siting its national stadium in a city that doesn’t much care for the sport. Sure, Paris has two professional clubs in Racing 92 and Stade Français, but both are in the bottom half of the Top 14 when it comes to average attendances (11,061 and 14,197 respectively). Bordeaux’s average gate last season was 32,000 and Toulouse’s 21,000.

France playing their Test matches in Paris is like England’s HQ being in Liverpool. It’s nonsensical.

It’s also a financial burden on fans, most of whom live in the south of France, particularly in this era of economic hardship. How many people on low-income wages can afford a train or plane ticket from Toulouse to Paris, a hotel for a night and a match ticket?

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Antoine Dupont heads a long list of players missing Saturday’s game, but the France star hopes to return later this month (Photo Christian Liewig – Corbis via Getty Images)

Whatever Erasmus is saying in public, in private he will be quietly confident that his boys will inflict another defeat on a France team devoid of several key players. No Antoine Dupont, Peato Mauvaka, François Cros, Théo Attissogbe, Yoram Moefana or Uini Atonio.

Arguably the player whose absence will worry Galthié most is Atonio. The veteran tighthead prop is sidelined with injury, as is his understudy Tevita Tatafu. According to the French press, Saturday’s tighthead will be rookie Régis Montagne. His two previous caps came as a replacement on this summer’s tour to New Zealand, and he is expected to be partnered at prop by another Test newbie, Baptiste Erdocio, similarly blooded in New Zealand.

Saturday will be unlike anything the pair have previously experienced. Their first Test on home soil against the back-to-back world champions, who boast the best front row in the business. Oh, and there’s also the Bomb Squad. Bonne Chance.

There had been talk of Dupont being a prime target for R360, the breakaway league, but he has put that rumour to bed.

Dupont has been with the French squad this week at their camp in Marcoussis, lending his moral support but also taking part in light no-contact training. The scrum-half is scheduled to make his comeback for Toulouse at the end of the month but the sight of Dupont running freely after his horrific knee injury will gladden Gallic hearts.

On Saturday evening at the half-time break between Toulouse and Stade Français, Dupont emerged to inform the faithful that he has signed a new contract that will keep him at the club until 2031. There had been talk of him being a prime target for R360, the breakaway league, but Dupont has put that rumour to bed. According to a recent report in Midi Olympique, R360 is having no joy trying to lure French stars to their project.

Dupont turns 29 next week so the 2027 World Cup will be the last tournament when he is in his prime. France’s preparations for the competition begin in earnest on Saturday, and a win against South Africa will set them well on their way. But another defeat against their bogey team will really give France a case of les bleus.

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CC 40 days ago

Another win after Japan!!!

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CC 40 days ago

It’s gonna be 2close 2 call

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CC 40 days ago

Bokke!!! Once Bokke! Always Bokke ! Another win for Green& Gold, but it’s gonna be 2 close 2 call!

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AD 40 days ago

Watched the highlights from the France V South Africa game in 23 and it was a very close game which could have gone either way. Can’t wait for Saturday.

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ym 41 days ago

C’est un peu n'importe quoi cet article. Le Stade de France est un lieu froid ? L’auteur de cet article, a t’il déjà mis les pieds dans ce stade un jour de match de l'équipe de France ?

Quant au traumatisme des joueurs présents en quart de finale, il est du même acabit que ceux qui ont perdu la demie finale de 1995. Aucune autre équipe n’a eu à subir cela dans son histoire.

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Hammer Head 41 days ago

Franchement, la défaite de 2023, c’était un vrai coup de massue. Pas juste parce que c’était un quart à la maison — la France en a déjà vécu des déceptions en Coupe du monde (2007…) — mais surtout parce que ce match était complètement dingue. Perdre un truc pareil, c’est dur à avaler.


Mais bon, une grosse partie de ce groupe est encore là. Juste plus mûre, plus expérimentée. Et c’est pour ça que je me dis que ce match peut être l’occase pour les Bleus de montrer leur vraie classe et de repartir de l’avant.


Perso, j’aimerais bien une victoire de la France, même si je suis un fan des Boks. Ou au moins, pas une défaite trop cruelle. J’aimerais vraiment voir cette équipe s’imposer comme la meilleure d’Europe et devenir un vrai danger en 2027 — plus que l’Angleterre ou l’Irlande.


Bonne chance pour samedi ! Ça va être un super match, et j’espère que tout le monde va juste profiter du spectacle, quel que soit le résultat 💪🇫🇷🇿🇦

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Hammer Head 41 days ago

I’m of the view that France should have exorcised these demons long ago. To carry this amount of emotional baggage into one game (if that is the case) is poor mental preparation.


The best athletes and teams have short memories and move on to the hear and now. Those who get caught up in the rest falter.


I don’t think Galthie and his coaching team are that weak at recognizing the mental element of team sports and I sincerely hope, for their sake, it’s just the media being sensationalist.


It will be a fascinating encounter.

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J Marc 41 days ago

A lot of approximative in this article ….

Maybe Marseille is in the South but the it is far to be the “heartland” of french rugby, it is allmost the opposite ,it is the city of soccer.

For the Stade de France, in 1998 when it was build, french government forced FFR and FFF to sign a contact with the SDF Society to play about every game in SDF. Since a few months,this contact is over and had been renegociated.For example, France will play Fiji at Bordeaux and FFF had played its first qualifiers game in Parc des Princes this year.

FFR try to organise venues in the north of France to develop rugby in the north, there are often games in Lille for example.

For the distance from from the South of the country, it's true ,but it's more easier to go from Toulouse to Paris, than from Toulon to Toulouse. Maybe it's infortunate, but in France all is organised from and to Paris, and for a long time before rugby birth….

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SB 41 days ago

They are out of revenge mode and focussed towards 2027 as LBB said. A win for them would be nice but with many top players injured, it will be tough. I don’t think it is a bogey team, they won in 2022 and lost in 2023.

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Hammer Head 41 days ago

I think the bogey element is only winning 1 out of the last 9 over the last 15 years. Textbook bogey.


I actually didn’t realise they’ve had such a poor record against the boks since 2010. That win-loss record has been flying under the radar.

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Ed the Duck 41 days ago

The Boks already live rent free in pretty much every other teams head, and it’s likely to remain that way for quite some time!


And when Rassie swerves mind games for courtesy to a fault they should be worried, very worried indeed…

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at 40 days ago

A courteous Rassie is a confident Rassie, and rightly so given the boks recent form and France’s injuries.

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James White 41 days ago

Don’t be windgat. Dit mag jou Saterdag dalk net in die gat byt.

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