With a minus 439 pts difference, Yorkshire Carnegie are a club in freefall
With zero wins so far this season for Yorkshire Carnegie, relegation from the RFU Championship to National League 1 seems increasingly likely for a side that once finished fourth in the Premiership.
In December Yorkshire drafted in ex-Namibia boss Phil Davies. He had overseen their golden era in the noughties and said he saw himself as coming to help of a loved one in need: “When a friend or family member is in need, your natural reaction is to offer any help you can and the club has always felt like family to me.”
Prior to that, George Ford’s older brother Joe had taken the reigns as player-coach on a temporary basis following the sacking of Martyn Wood. In January Ford decided to leave the club with ‘immediate effect’ to concentrate on business activities away from rugby.
The RFU Championship table makes for a harrowing read for Yorkshire fans. They are rooted to the bottom of the table; currently 21 points adrift from 11th placed London Scottish.
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Their points difference? Minus 439. That’s an average losing margin of 36 points across their 12 games.
A single losing bonus point is all they have to show for their season to date.
Earlier this month DoR Davies used his contacts in Namibia to strengthen his squad with three internationals joining. Two of the Fish Eagle trio, Darryl de la Harpe and Prince Gosaeb, made their debut against Coventry but any boost to morale will have dissipated quickly with a 55 – 3 drubbing dished out at the Butts Park Arena.
With relegation looming, the fact that the RFU are slashing funding to the league will ultimately be an academic point for Yorkshire Carnegie, as it looks like they won’t get to avail of it.
It’s a sad decline for a club that was once competitive in the Premiership. It’s nine years since Yorkshire Carnegie, then known as Leeds Carnegie, last graced the English top flight.
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They were relegated in 2010, after several years of bouncing up and down from the Premiership. Last year they finished mid-table in the increasingly competitive Championship, but the 2019/20 season has been a nightmare for the side.
The club officially took up part-time basis this season, as they were unable to sustain player salaries. The move came after the RFU allowed them to stay in the Championship, despite their financial difficulties; a move that upset Richmond, who found themselves relegated from the Championship last season.
The high-profile signing of Ford and Tom Varndell irked many at a club where a raft of players were being left out of pocket.
It’s all a far cry from the previous decade at the club.
They first entered the Premiership in 2001 and were not relegated despite finishing bottom of the table. Championship title winners Rotherham failed to meet the criteria for entry into the Premiership that year, giving the northerners an inaugural season reprieve.
The following campaign would prove more fruitful and would ultimately be their most successful ever Premiership campaign. Then known as Leeds Tykes – they finished fourth, just two points shy of third-placed Northampton Saints.
That success was short-lived, and they finished in 11th place in 2003/04, albeit well clear of a hapless Rotherham Titans side that went an entire season without a win.
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In 2004/05, after a shaky start to the season, they climbed back up to a respectable 8th under Davies.
In the background, their academy, which was established under the leadership of former player and future England boss Stuart Lancaster, was starting to produce. It churned out Danny Care, Luther Burrell, Paul Hill, Jack Walker and Lewis Boyce among others.
Their Premiership run came to an end in 2005/06, when they were relegated from the Premiership for the first time. They lost a raft of seasoned players including internationals like Tom Palmer, Iain Balshaw, Gordon Bullock, Andy Craig and David Rees and would be internationals like Danny Care, amongst others.
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They were back to winning ways in 2006-07, a season which saw the northern club restructure. They entered into a joint venture with Leeds Beckett University, who took a majority stake in Leeds Tykes.
The club renamed itself Leeds Carnegie and they returned to the Premiership Rugby in 2007/2008.
Under coaches Neil Back and Andy Key the side would defy the odds to stay up with that season. Yet, despite increased funding, they would suffer relegation a season later, where a single point saw them relegated for what looks like the foreseeable future.
With relegation on the horizon, sadly it looks Yorkshire Carnegie will share the fate of clubs like Richmond, West Harlepool and Rotherham Titans, for whom Premiership Rugby must now seem a distant memory. Not only is it a blow for the club, but it’s a blow for rugby union in the north of England.
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1 Go to commentsChristian Lio -Willies 2 try perfomance was a standout. As was captain Scott Barrett. Up front was where the boys won it.They are a great team and players. Fantastic Crusades , you can keep going.
1 Go to commentsI don't know how the locals feel about that? I guess if you call yourselves the Worcester Wasps that might be appease. But really we need more teams in the Premiership in my view so they are not padding it out as they are at the moment. It might curtail so many players going abroad as well
4 Go to commentsNZ 😭😭😭is certainly rivaling England for best whingers cup!😭😭😭 !!!
24 Go to commentsYup. New Zealand won 3 out of 10 world cups played. SA 4 out of 8 attempts 30 Vs 50 per cent.🤔🤔
24 Go to commentsShould've done this years ago. Change Saturday kick off times to around 11am. Up and off and back home before 3pm, limit travel time too. Allows players to actually do something else with their Saturday that's family oriented or being rugby fans they could ‘watch’ pro rugby. Increases crowds etc. How can anyone that enjoys grassroots and pro rugby have to choose between the two on Saturdays?
9 Go to commentsI bet he inspired those supporters just as much.
1 Go to commentsBen Smith Springboks living rent free in his head 😊😂
67 Go to commentsGood to hear he would like to play the game at the highest level, I hadn’t been to sure how much of a motivator that was before now. Sadly he’s probably chosen the rugby club to go to. Try not to worry about all the input about how you should play rugby Joey and just try to emulate what you do on the league field and have fun. You’ll limit your game too much (well not really because he’s a standard athlete like SBW and he’ll still have enough) if you’re trying to make sure you can recycle the ball back etc. On the other hard, you can totally just try and recycle by looking to offload any and everywhere if you’re going to ground 😋
1 Go to commentsThis just proves that theres always a stat and a metric to use to justify your abilities and your success. Ben did it last week by creating an imaginary competition and now you did the same to counter his argument and espouse a new yardstick for success. Why not just use the current one and lets say the Boks have won 4 world cups making them the most successful world cup team. Outside of the world cup the All Blacks are the most successful team winning countless rugby championships and dominating the rankings with high win percentages. Over the last 4 years statistically the Irish are the best having the highest win rate and also having positive records against every tier 1 side. The most successful Northern team in the game has been England with a world cup title and the most six nations titles in history. The AB’s are the most dominant team in history with the highest win rate and 3 world cups. Lets not try to reinvent the wheel. Just be honest about the actual stats and what each team has been good at doing and that will be enough to define their level of success.
24 Go to commentsHow is 7’s played there? I’m surprised 10 or 11 man rugby hasn’t taken off. 7 just doesn’t fit the 15s dynamics (rules n field etc) but these other versions do.
9 Go to commentsPick Swinton at your peril A liability just like JWH from the Roosters Skelton ??? went missing at RWC
14 Go to commentsLike tennis, who have a ranking system, and I believe rugby too, just measure over each period preceding a world cup event who was the longest number one and that would be it. In tennis the number one player frequently is not the grand slam winner. I love and adore the All Blacks since the days of Ian Kirkpatrick when I was a kid in SA. And still do because they are the masters of running rugby and are gentleman on and off the field - in general. And in my opinion they have been the majority of the time the best rugby team in the world.
24 Go to commentsHaving overseas possessions in 2024 is absurd. These Frenchies should have to give the New Caledonians their freedom.
21 Go to commentsBell injured his foot didn’t he? Bring Tupou in he’ll deliver when it counts. Agree mostly but I would switch in the Reds number 8 Harry Wilson for Swinton and move Rob Valentini to 6 instead. Wilson is a clever player who reads the play, you can’t outmuscle the AB’s and Springboks, if you have any chance it’s by playing clever. Same goes for Paisami, he’s a little guy who doesn’t really trouble the likes of De Allende and Jordie Barrett. I’d rather play Carter Gordon at 12 and put Michael Lynagh’s boy at 10. That way you get a BMT type goalkicker at 10 and a playmaker at 12. Anyways, just my two cents as a Bok supporter.
14 Go to commentsThanks Brett, love your articles which are alway pertinent. It’s a difficult topic trying to have a panel adjudicating consistently penalties for red card issues. Many of the mitigating reasons raised are judged subjectively, hence the different outcomes. How to take away subjective opinions?
9 Go to commentsYes Sir! Surprising, just like Fraser would also have escaped sanction if he was a few inches lower, even if it was by accident that he missed! Has there really been talk about those sanctions or is this just sensational journalism? I stopped reading, so might have missed any notations.
9 Go to commentsAI is only as good as the information put in, the nuances of the sport, what you see out the corner of the eye, how you sum up in a split second the situation, yes the AI is a tool but will not help win games, more likely contribute to a loss, Rugby Players are not robots, all AI can do if offer a solution not the solution. AI will effect many sports, help train better golfers etc.
45 Go to commentsIt couldn’t have been Ryan Crotty. He wasn’t selected in either World Cup side - they chose Money Bill instead. And Money Bill only cared about himself, and that manager he had, not the team.
28 Go to commentsYawn 🥱 nobody would give a hoot about this new trophy. End of the day we just have to beat Ireland and NZ this year then they can finally shut up 🤐
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