Why John Plumtree might swing the All Blacks' coaching ticket in Foster's favour
John Plumtree’s become something of an intriguing figure.
Not so long ago, word was the Hurricanes coach had no interest in an All Blacks’ role. At least not if that role was assistant coach.
Plumtree only wanted the top job but here is now, about to potentially become deputy to Ian Foster. A lot must have changed then.
Back when the 54-year-old was first connected to the job, the view was it was mischievously. As the All Blacks cast about for someone to replace the irreplaceable Wayne Smith on their coaching staff, Plumtree and Scott McLeod were mentioned in dispatches.
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The Hurricanes’ view was that the job as All Blacks defence coach was being given to McLeod, with Plumtree’s name offered up to one or two media types to create the illusion of contestability.
Besides, Plumtree reportedly wasn’t desperate to work with Steve Hansen and Ian Foster. Plus he had a gentlemen’s agreement to succeed Chris Boyd as Hurricanes’ head coach.
Plumtree duly assumed that Hurricanes’ position, while retaining his previous role as defence coach. That was the other thing about those alleged All Blacks overtures; some felt it was an insult to Plumtree that his defensive expertise were mentioned in the same breath as the comparatively unproven McLeod.
Isn’t it funny how things work out? Assuming Foster is named All Blacks head coach, McLeod’s on his ticket too as defence coach, with Plumtree’s rumoured portfolio to be the forward pack.
Defensive systems are Plumtree’s passion, but he’s obviously a pragmatist as well. Rightly or wrongly, continuity has become New Zealand Rugby’s favoured method of appointing coaches and Plumtree has clearly worked out that the quickest route to the top All Blacks’ job is a successful stint as the dutiful deputy.
That’s the obvious end goal here for Plumtree. Of all the people whose hats are said to be in the ring to become a head or assistant coach, none have his pedigree. Or anything close.
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The only thing Plumtree lacks on his CV is time in the All Blacks’ environment, because he’s done pretty much everything else.
Depending on who you talk to, it was Plumtree rather than Boyd, who was the chief architect of the Hurricanes’ run to the 2016 Super Rugby title. Before that he’d taken the Sharks to a Super final and he’s supplemented his provincial and franchise successes with stints as an assistant coach to Joe Schmidt at Ireland and under Jamie Joseph with Japan.
He’s an ambitious and impressive guy who knows coaching and knows the rugby landscape. Players play for him too, which is something Plumtree has in common with Foster’s main rival Scott Robertson.
Robertson, a three-time Super Rugby title winner with the Crusaders, presents a pretty compelling case of his own. But if this comes down to a contest between his own likely assistants – Jason Holland and Jason Ryan – and Foster’s, then Foster’s trio wins. Not least because of Plumtree, who’s the best-qualified person of them all.
Still, it says a lot about New Zealand Rugby, and their methods, that Plumtree feels he has to serve an apprenticeship under Foster before he can chase the All Blacks’ job in his own right.
It should make for an interesting next couple of years.
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Beautiful shot from Finau, end of story. Gutted for Shaun Stevenson though.
4 Go to commentsThe Chiefs definitely didn’t win ugly. They had the superior scrum, a dominant lineout, and their defence was excellent once the Waratahs scored their two tries (thanks to some lucky refereeing calls mind you). They put pressure on the Waratahs lineout throughout the game, and the mind boggles as to why the referee did not award a yellow card or a penalty try against the Waratahs for repeated scrum infringements on their own try line before Narawa’s first try. And the Chiefs were slick with their passing and running angles on attack. It was a dominant performance all round, even with many questionable refereeing decisions.
1 Go to commentsWasnt late. Ref 2 assistants andTMO all saw it so who are you to say it was?
4 Go to commentsAre the Brumbies playing the Blues twice in a row?
4 Go to commentsBig difference from the Saders. Forwards really muscled up and laid a solid platform. Scooter brought some steel and I liked the loosie combination. Newell has been rather disappointing this season but stepped up big time - happy also to see Franks dot down. He should do that more often! Reihana had a good game and there seems to be more flair and invention with him in the saddle. McNicoll plays well from the back and is reliable plus inventive when he joins the line. Keep it up chaps!
3 Go to comments🤦♂️🤣 who cares who’s the best . All I know is the All Blacks have the star coach but have few star players now …
30 Go to commentsJe suis sûr que Farrell est impatient de jouer avec Lopez et Machenaud et d’être entraîné par Collazo… 🤭
1 Go to commentsAn on field red (aka a full red) in SRP must surely carry a bigger suspension than a red card given by the bunker as that carries a 20 minute team punishment. Had Damon Murphy abdicated his responsibility as a ref and issued both Drua players a yellow, which would have been upgraded to a 20 minute red by the bunker, that would have killed Australia and New Zealand’s push for the 20 minute red to be trialled globally from July this year.
11 Go to commentsEver so often you all post a Danny Care story that isn’t the announcement that he has finally re-signed for one more, victory tour season at Quins and I’m just like, “well you fooled me again!” My absolute favorite player ever, we need to make his final year at the Stoop (and Twickers) official already. I know he supposedly snubbed France but I won’t feel better until he signs.
1 Go to commentslate hit what late hit it wasn’t at all late and can clearly see he was committed before the tackle
4 Go to commentsChristian Lio -Willies 2 try perfomance was a standout. As was captain Scott Barrett. Up front was where the boys won it.They are a great team and players. Fantastic Crusaders , you can keep going.
3 Go to commentsI don't know how the locals feel about that? I guess if you call yourselves the Worcester Wasps that might be appease. But really we need more teams in the Premiership in my view so they are not padding it out as they are at the moment. It might curtail so many players going abroad as well
5 Go to commentsNZ 😭😭😭is certainly rivaling England for best whingers cup!😭😭😭 !!!
30 Go to commentsYup. New Zealand won 3 out of 10 world cups played. SA 4 out of 8 attempts 30 Vs 50 per cent.🤔🤔
30 Go to commentsShould've done this years ago. Change Saturday kick off times to around 11am. Up and off and back home before 3pm, limit travel time too. Allows players to actually do something else with their Saturday that's family oriented or being rugby fans they could ‘watch’ pro rugby. Increases crowds etc. How can anyone that enjoys grassroots and pro rugby have to choose between the two on Saturdays?
9 Go to commentsI bet he inspired those supporters just as much.
1 Go to commentsBen Smith Springboks living rent free in his head 😊😂
67 Go to commentsGood to hear he would like to play the game at the highest level, I hadn’t been to sure how much of a motivator that was before now. Sadly he’s probably chosen the rugby club to go to. Try not to worry about all the input about how you should play rugby Joey and just try to emulate what you do on the league field and have fun. You’ll limit your game too much (well not really because he’s a standard athlete like SBW and he’ll still have enough) if you’re trying to make sure you can recycle the ball back etc. On the other hard, you can totally just try and recycle by looking to offload any and everywhere if you’re going to ground 😋
1 Go to commentsThis just proves that theres always a stat and a metric to use to justify your abilities and your success. Ben did it last week by creating an imaginary competition and now you did the same to counter his argument and espouse a new yardstick for success. Why not just use the current one and lets say the Boks have won 4 world cups making them the most successful world cup team. Outside of the world cup the All Blacks are the most successful team winning countless rugby championships and dominating the rankings with high win percentages. Over the last 4 years statistically the Irish are the best having the highest win rate and also having positive records against every tier 1 side. The most successful Northern team in the game has been England with a world cup title and the most six nations titles in history. The AB’s are the most dominant team in history with the highest win rate and 3 world cups. Lets not try to reinvent the wheel. Just be honest about the actual stats and what each team has been good at doing and that will be enough to define their level of success.
30 Go to commentsHow is 7’s played there? I’m surprised 10 or 11 man rugby hasn’t taken off. 7 just doesn’t fit the 15s dynamics (rules n field etc) but these other versions do.
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