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LONG READ Why England's ex-pats are hurting France's backrow depth chart

Why England's ex-pats are hurting France's backrow depth chart
6 hours ago

The news that Tom Willis is returning to France this summer to join Bordeaux is not just bad news for England. It is also a nuisance for France’s national coach, Fabien Galthie. Yet another English loose forward reducing his back-row options.

No 8 Tom joins his brother Jack, who is almost as important to Toulouse as Antoine Dupont. Then there’s Lewis Ludlam and Zach Mercer at Toulon; Sam Simmonds at Lyon; Nathan Hughes at Racing 92; Karl Wilkins at Montauban and Billy Vunipola at Montpellier. Their youth academy contains another English back-rower, 19-year-old Solomon Shand, who made his senior debut this season in the Challenge Cup.

There are even a couple of grizzled former England loose forwards in the top echelons of the ProD2 in Courtney Lawes (Brive) and Teimana Harrison (Provence).

This is a recent phenomenon. In the 2010s it was predominantly English backs who made the move to France and flourished; the likes of Jonny Wilkinson, Chris Ashton, Nick Abendanon, David Strettle and Delon Armitage.

One might argue that Zach Mercer started France’s penchant for English back-row forwards during his two seasons at Montpellier. The former Bath No 8, capped twice by England in 2018, was hugely influential when they won their inaugural Top 14 title in 2021/22. Mercer was named Player of the Season, the first Englishmen to achieve such an accolade (not even Wilkinson got that gong). Last season Jack Willis beat Thomas Ramos and Sireli Maqala to the award.

Jack Willis
Like Steffon Armitage before him, Jack Willis has shown how much can be achieved in foreign climes (Photo by Lionel Hahn/Getty Images)

In analysing why Mercer – who joined Toulon last summer – was such a success in France, former Toulon fitness coach Steve Walsh said: “He fits in so well because the Top 14 is slightly slower [than the English Premiership] and also less structured and that suits Zach’s game. The skill level among the forwards a little lower and so with his natural ability, and the speed with which he reads the game.”

Top 14 coaches evidently reached the same conclusion, which explains why there is now such a fashion in France for English loose forwards.

They are in general fitter, quicker and technically superior than their French counterparts.

Of the ten loose forwards selected in Galthie’s 42-man Six Nations squad, five – Mickaël Guillard, Anthony Jelonch, Alexandre Roumat, Charles Ollivon and Cameron Woki – have played for either club or country in the second row.

France, like South Africa, don’t field open- and blind-side flankers in the way their rivals traditionally have. They play left and right flankers, usually big men of similar attributes. Having that specialist No7 – a Neil Back, Richie McCaw or Josh van der Flier hasn’t been France’s style. There have been some brilliant footballing flankers for France – Jean-Pierre Rives, Laurent Cabannes and Olivier Magne, for example; but in the last decade as the Top 14 has become more and more physical France have nurtured a generation of back row giants, many of whom can also play in the second row.

Of the ten loose forwards selected in Galthie’s 42-man Six Nations squad, five – Mickaël Guillard, Anthony Jelonch, Alexandre Roumat, Charles Ollivon and Cameron Woki – have played for either club or country in the second row.

Of the ten, the smallest is the 6ft 2in Alexandre Fischer.

Cameron Woki
Due to the highly-attritional nature of the Top 14, France have a glut of large back-five hybrids like Cameron Woki and not so many out-and-out fetchers (Photo Sanka Vidanagama/Getty Images)
The back row forwards named in Steve Borthwick’s England squad are smaller men. Sam Underhill and Tom Curry are 6ft 1in, Henry Pollock, Guy Pepper, Greg Fisilau and Ben Earl are 6ft 2. Only Chandler Cunningham-South has French proportions, standing 6ft 4in and weighing in at 18 and a half stones. England also have Alex Coles, the Northampton lock who can put in a good shift in the back row if required.

Writing in the Sunday Times at the weekend, Stuart Barnes mused over Borthwick’s selection conundrums for the Six Nations opener and said: “There’s little to say about the back row, other than it is packed with talent, variety and options.”

The same can not be said of France’s back-row options. La Rochelle’s Oscar Jegou is a promising talent; tall, rangy with good hands but his 6ft 3in 15 stone frame lacks explosive power.
There is excitement about the emergence of Bordeaux 24-year-old No 8 Temo Matiu, who switched from basketball to rugby four years ago. In the last year the 6ft 3in Matiu has bulked up to over 16 stones, making him similar in size and style to England’s Greg Fisilau.

There is excitement about the emergence of Bordeaux 24-year-old No 8 Temo Matiu, who switched from basketball to rugby four years ago. “I think I’ve retained a lot from basketball, with ball-handling techniques and even jumping for lineouts,” he said in an interview last year. “It’s also helped me read the game and analyse spaces.”

In the last year the 6ft 3in Matiu has bulked up to over 16 stones, making him similar in size and style to England’s Greg Fisilau. He’s the type of powerful, athletic, skilful loose forward that France requires. Cros, Ollivon, Jelonch, Roumat and Woki are fine players but they are much of a muchness. They are also getting on in years, and in the case of Cros, Ollivon and Jelonch, have suffered serious injuries in recent seasons.

The problem for Galthie is the lack of fresh loose forward talent coming through. There was a lot of justified hype a few seasons ago about La Rochelle’s Matthias Haddad, only 21 when he helped his club win the 2022 Champions Cup. But ever since he has been plagued by injuries, and just before Christmas he suffered his sixth concussion in five years. According to a recent report in Midi Olympique, the club has sent Haddad to one of France’s leading experts in concussion injuries to assess his future.

Temo Matiu
There is excitement about young Bordeaux flanker Temo Matiu but France have nothing like the depth England possess (Photo Anne-Christine POUJOULAT/Getty Images)
There aren’t many other back-row options for Galthie. Of course, the irony is that none of England’s scintillating loose forwards in France can play for their country because of the RFU’s overseas rule.
That at least is the good news for Galthie; the bad news is that their effectiveness in the Top 14 exposes the gulf in ability between English back row forwards and French ones.


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SB 10 mins ago

Another absolutely rubbish article about French rugby, written in English.


The back row depth for France is insane. No mention of Lenni Nouchi here is criminal, who has been awesome captaining Montpellier this season and was unlucky to be injured last year in the summer. Otherwise he would’ve been similar to Guillard by being a revelation in New Zealand after already playing in the 2024 Argentina tour. Esteban Capilla is another quality back rower who is currently injured but has been playing very well this season. You also have younger guys like Marko Gazzotti and Mathis Castro-Ferreira waiting in the wings.


Cros, Ollivon, Jelonch, Roumat and Woki are fine players but they are much of a muchness. They are also getting on in years, and in the case of Cros, Ollivon and Jelonch, have suffered serious injuries in recent seasons.

Cros is one of the most underrated players in the world. France’s most important third line player and to call him at the level of much of a muchness proves my point. Ollivon is outstanding and very skilled, hence why he can also play at 4. Roumat and Woki are not in the 23, even though the UBB man has been one of the top form players at club level this season so far. Even if Cros, Ollivon and Jelonch all got injured… France could field Fischer Woki Alldritt just as an example, who could as a trio could more than do a job against nearly every side in the world.


There aren’t many other back-row options for Galthie.

Simply not true. Don’t forget Boudehent as well who was very good last year in the 6N, not mentioned at all in the article. He is injured.


the bad news is that their effectiveness in the Top 14 exposes the gulf in ability between English back row forwards and French ones.

I don’t think even smart England fans believe this.

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J Marc 1 hr ago

If you ask to french fans in what position France theres is a lack of good players, back row will be the last and by far…

And for the lack of skills of french back rows ,it will be almost the same thing…

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fl 52 mins ago

In what position in France is there a lack of good players?

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