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The debate over Rhys Webb's eligibility has kicked off again on Twitter
With under six months to go until this year’s World Cup in Japan, some players in the northern hemisphere will not have long to impress and earn a place at the tournament, with the season reaching an end.
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However, one debate that looks set to rage on until September is the eligibility of Rhys Webb to represent Wales at the World Cup this year.
This topic was once again raised on BBC Scrum V, and has evoked quite a reaction from Welsh fans on Twitter, with many arguing for and against his inclusion.
Webb joined French giants Toulon at the beginning of the season, making him ineligible to represent Wales as he has under 60 caps. However, there may be measures to make sure he can play in Japan, such as a short-term contract.
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Some fans are very much for this, as ultimately they want the best team possible when it comes to the World Cup, and Webb would still be a favourite to start. Neither Gareth Davies, Tomos Williams or Aled Davies have been able to secure the number nine shirt since Webb departed, and it appears many fans would welcome back the former Osprey with open arms.
This is what they are saying:
https://twitter.com/NMarzy4/status/1114951181489537025
https://twitter.com/Ginger_Ninja27/status/1114995523625394178
https://twitter.com/DavidMBurke/status/1114970253283479562
https://twitter.com/AlunHarries1/status/1114968560655376384
https://twitter.com/rhodri13jw/status/1114951700882829313
You either pay the players their open market value, don’t pick them or … change the 60 cap rule and have a shout at winning the World Cup. Rhys Webb would get into the side in a heartbeat.
— Graham Binns (@Binnsey22) April 2, 2019
On the other hand, it is being argued that Webb knew the consequences of his departure when he left for Toulon, and it is therefore unfair on the other players that have remained in Wales if they miss out on a World Cup place.
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What makes this particularly interesting is that there is a grey area in which Webb may or may not have been aware of the consequences of this move, as Wales implemented the rule at a similar time to the announcement of his departure. With consistent loopholes being found in this ruling, particularly by English clubs, this could lead to another instance where a player has wrangled his way into the Warren Gatland’s team.
This is what the fans are saying:
https://twitter.com/brenzinho/status/1114952856640073728
https://twitter.com/markthomas157cb/status/1114962832477626370
https://twitter.com/richard62467632/status/1115185684325838849
https://twitter.com/AlunHodson/status/1114968824988733440
Harsh on the other 3 scrum halfs. The grand slam winning scrum halfs!
— Ollie Jonas (@oliverjonas2) April 7, 2019
The crux of the issue to these fans is that Webb knew what he was doing, and he must face the consequences of his move away from Wales. Anything otherwise could prove to be divisive.
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Ben Smith Springboks living rent free in his head 😊😂
67 Go to commentsGood to hear he would like to play the game at the highest level, I hadn’t been to sure how much of a motivator that was before now. Sadly he’s probably chosen the rugby club to go to. Try not to worry about all the input about how you should play rugby Joey and just try to emulate what you do on the league field and have fun. You’ll limit your game too much (well not really because he’s a standard athlete like SBW and he’ll still have enough) if you’re trying to make sure you can recycle the ball back etc. On the other hard, you can totally just try and recycle by looking to offload any and everywhere if you’re going to ground 😋
1 Go to commentsThis just proves that theres always a stat and a metric to use to justify your abilities and your success. Ben did it last week by creating an imaginary competition and now you did the same to counter his argument and espouse a new yardstick for success. Why not just use the current one and lets say the Boks have won 4 world cups making them the most successful world cup team. Outside of the world cup the All Blacks are the most successful team winning countless rugby championships and dominating the rankings with high win percentages. Over the last 4 years statistically the Irish are the best having the highest win rate and also having positive records against every tier 1 side. The most successful Northern team in the game has been England with a world cup title and the most six nations titles in history. The AB’s are the most dominant team in history with the highest win rate and 3 world cups. Lets not try to reinvent the wheel. Just be honest about the actual stats and what each team has been good at doing and that will be enough to define their level of success.
19 Go to commentsHow is 7’s played there? I’m surprised 10 or 11 man rugby hasn’t taken off. 7 just doesn’t fit the 15s dynamics (rules n field etc) but these other versions do.
7 Go to commentsPick Swinton at your peril A liability just like JWH from the Roosters Skelton ??? went missing at RWC
14 Go to commentsLike tennis, who have a ranking system, and I believe rugby too, just measure over each period preceding a world cup event who was the longest number one and that would be it. In tennis the number one player frequently is not the grand slam winner. I love and adore the All Blacks since the days of Ian Kirkpatrick when I was a kid in SA. And still do because they are the masters of running rugby and are gentleman on and off the field - in general. And in my opinion they have been the majority of the time the best rugby team in the world.
19 Go to commentsHaving overseas possessions in 2024 is absurd. These Frenchies should have to give the New Caledonians their freedom.
21 Go to commentsBell injured his foot didn’t he? Bring Tupou in he’ll deliver when it counts. Agree mostly but I would switch in the Reds number 8 Harry Wilson for Swinton and move Rob Valentini to 6 instead. Wilson is a clever player who reads the play, you can’t outmuscle the AB’s and Springboks, if you have any chance it’s by playing clever. Same goes for Paisami, he’s a little guy who doesn’t really trouble the likes of De Allende and Jordie Barrett. I’d rather play Carter Gordon at 12 and put Michael Lynagh’s boy at 10. That way you get a BMT type goalkicker at 10 and a playmaker at 12. Anyways, just my two cents as a Bok supporter.
14 Go to commentsThanks Brett, love your articles which are alway pertinent. It’s a difficult topic trying to have a panel adjudicating consistently penalties for red card issues. Many of the mitigating reasons raised are judged subjectively, hence the different outcomes. How to take away subjective opinions?
9 Go to commentsYes Sir! Surprising, just like Fraser would also have escaped sanction if he was a few inches lower, even if it was by accident that he missed! Has there really been talk about those sanctions or is this just sensational journalism? I stopped reading, so might have missed any notations.
9 Go to commentsAI is only as good as the information put in, the nuances of the sport, what you see out the corner of the eye, how you sum up in a split second the situation, yes the AI is a tool but will not help win games, more likely contribute to a loss, Rugby Players are not robots, all AI can do if offer a solution not the solution. AI will effect many sports, help train better golfers etc.
45 Go to commentsIt couldn’t have been Ryan Crotty. He wasn’t selected in either World Cup side - they chose Money Bill instead. And Money Bill only cared about himself, and that manager he had, not the team.
28 Go to commentsYawn 🥱 nobody would give a hoot about this new trophy. End of the day we just have to beat Ireland and NZ this year then they can finally shut up 🤐
19 Go to commentsTalking bout Ryan Crotty? Heard Crotty say in a interview once that SBW doesen't care about the team . He went on to say that whenever they lost a big game, SBW would be happy as if nothing happened, according to him someone who cares would look down.. Personally I think Crotty is in the wrong, not for feeling gutted but for expecting others 2 be like him… I have been a bad loser forever as it matters so much to me but good on you SBW for being able to see the bigger picture….
28 Go to commentsThis sounds like a WWE idea so Americans can also get excited about rugby, RUGBY NEEDS A INTERNATIONAL CALENDER .. The rugby Championship and Six Nations can be held at same time, top 3 of six nations and top 3 of Rugby championship (6 nations should include Georgia AND another qualifying country while Fiji, Japan and Samoa/Tonga qualifier should make out 6 Southern teams).. Scrap June internationals and year end tours. Have a Elite top six Cup and the Bottom 6 in a secondary comp….
19 Go to commentsThe rugby championship would be even stronger with Fiji in it… I know it doesen’t fit the long term plans of NZ or Aus but you are robbing a whole nation of being able to see their best players play for Fiji…. Every second player in NZ and AUS teams has Fijian surnames… shame on you!!! World rugby won’t step in either as France and England has now also joined in…. I guess where money is involved it will always be the poor countries missing out….
86 Go to commentsNo surprise there. How hard can it be to pick a ball off the ground and chuck it to a mate? 😂
4 Go to commentsSometimes people just like a moan mate!
9 Go to commentsexcellent idea ! rugby needs this 💪
19 Go to comments9 Brumbies! What a joke! The best performing team in Oz! Ditch Skelton for Swain or Neville. Ryan Lonergan ahead of McDermott any day! Best selection bolter is Toole … amazing player
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