Springboks fans are saying the same thing after Scott Robertson exit

I was part of a debate a month or so ago about TB returning to NZ. One compelling response seemed to be that he and most importantly his family was now settled in SA. That makes sense up to 2028. After that, surely multiple loyalties to NZ, including family, Otago, ABs and JJ will kick in.

NZRU also needs to focus on people who really want to coach here. TB looks great but he’s not the only coach that knows how to get the most out of good players. So if he is not jumping at the chance then move on and quickly.

South Africa can win the world cup with or without Tony Brown. They have won 2 without him. New Zealand don't have the same player pool and have struggled at U20 level too.

TB said working with the wealth of talent in South Africa has been a dream.

It would be quite amusing if the replacement had similar results

There’s an old allegory there’s trouble when the inmates run the asylum

The saffers are the enemy of all things good and holy.

There is no interest in their self serving opinions.

Haha I love the South Africans and their funny quirks, how can a nation all think the same thing! This is just Gold.

Brown will end up as head coach of the ABs in due course. Patience..

NZR have imposed a year long non-compete on Robertson covering all Tier 1 nations, even though they were the ones who kicked him out and he has no payout.

Now, if Brown refuses to honour his contract with SA, what are the odds that SA will impose a two year non-compete?

Or, if confronted with such a threat, he sucks up the consequences of his own spectacular misjudgement in repeatedly refusing an AB's assistant role and sticks with the clear favourite to win RWC 2027?

My pick is that this is the first of many disappointments coming the way of NZR, the AB fans, and the players. Maybe then they will begin to recognise just where NZ actually is in the order of things.

All of this just confirms what a great job Tony. And he’s not done yet. He won’t leave halfway. Even if Jamie is appointed to the ABs. I doubt Jamie would even expect it of him.

When opportunity knocks and you don’t open the door, that opportunity rarely comes knocking again.

If Jamie Joseph becomes the new head coach and offers Tony Brown the attack job and Brown turns it down, there may not be a second opportunity. Joseph will have to hire someone else to be attack coach and will be loyal to him.

I’m a kiwi, I think it would be surprising for Tony to step away from the boks now that his hard work is paying off. They have a winning recipe and as much as he is a kiwi and former AB, being in an environment where your hard work is paying dividends is also very rewarding.

The thing that might do it is family or safety reasons. NZR should hire some tsotsis to rob his house in SA

Look, its possible, but I think it’d be in the best interest for both parties if Brown stayed. People are already assuming Joseph has the job, despite Kirk saying they only just started looking yesterday, and that he wants to cast as wide a net as possible for candidates.