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Why many Springboks fans will never give Ireland their dues

Ireland captain Caelan Doris and his team are applauded from the pitch by the South Africa team after the second test between South Africa and Ireland at Kings Park in Durban, South Africa. (Photo By Brendan Moran/Sportsfile via Getty Images)

This is it. The last box that needs ticking. The final itch to scratch. The only piece of unfinished business left on the to-do list. Win in Dublin and Rassie Erasmus would have no more lands to conquer.

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It wasn’t long ago that many South African rugby fans looked favourably on Ireland. There were flashpoints, of course – Ronan O’Gara’s cheeky quick-tap while John Smit’s Boks had their backs turned in 2004 remains lodged in the national memory – but for the most part, this was a relationship on the fringes of the sport’s ecosystem.

It was novel. A passing curiosity that came around only every couple of years. Between 1998 and 2016 the teams met 15 times, with the Springboks winning ten to Ireland’s five. There was little animosity. If anything, many Bok supporters considered Ireland a second-favourite team. I know I did.

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Something shifted in the autumn of 2017. Joe Schmidt’s team didn’t simply beat the Springboks, they dismantled them, running up a record 38-3 score in Dublin. Erasmus and his deputy, Jacques Nienaber, were watching from the stands that day, having made the journey from Limerick where they were coaching Munster. That was the turning point. It was there that Erasmus vowed to return to South Africa and forge one of rugby’s greatest dynasties.

But for all the titles, honours and adulation that has come his way, he’s not been able to dislodge a thorn in his side. “Ireland is our bogey team” he admitted before the 2023 World Cup clash that Ireland won 13-8, their third straight win over South Africa. Erasmus would finally taste victory in a Test thanks to a 77th-minute penalty try in Pretoria in 2024, but not in a series. Ciaran Frawley’s drop-goal after the hooter in Durban a week later saw to that.

In this time the rivalry has simmered and occasionally curdled, especially online where the most jingoistic voices feel emboldened to hurl their vitriol. But beyond the noise and the ugliness, the rugby cultures of the two nations share more than either side might admit. Both rely heavily on a handful of elite schools to produce their stars, and both wrap their identity around the unifying mythology the sport provides – rugby as heritage, rugby as glue, rugby as a story bigger than the game itself.

There has also been the transfer of ideas and talent. Coaches have crossed the equator in both directions – Erasmus and Nienaber sharpening their craft in Limerick, Felix Jones and Jerry Flannery carrying Irish insight into the Springbok machine – while players like CJ Stander and Jean Kleyn have shifted allegiances entirely. The traffic hasn’t been one-way; it’s been an ongoing exchange, blending philosophies, conditioning methods, and cultural approaches that have quietly tied the two rugby nations closer together even as the rivalry intensified.

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But perceptions change slowly in sport. Opinions calcify and turn to rock. And no matter how much the Irish have risen, how comprehensively they’ve outplayed South Africa in recent years, a large portion of Bok supporters simply refuse to grant them equal footing. Respect? Perhaps. But rivalry? Never. To many South Africans, there is only one nation entitled to stand opposite them on the sport’s highest spiritual plane, and that is New Zealand. Everyone else, Ireland included, remains an interloper in a two-horse mythology.

For these fans, Ireland’s ascent is treated not as an evolution but an inconvenience, an aberration that needs correcting. There is a persistent belief that the Irish are playing above their station, that their world rankings and win records are inflated, that their success is a temporary quirk in the cycle rather than a structural shift, that no team without a single appearance in a World Cup semi-final could ever be taken seriously. This is where the emotional charge of the fixture comes from: a deep-seated urge among South Africans to prove, decisively and publicly, that the Irish are not peers but pretenders.

And layered on top of that is something more combustible: the conspiratorial streak that has gripped the fringes of the Bok fanbase. Every red card, every breakdown penalty, every 50/50 call against South Africa becomes part of a larger narrative of persecution. The recent dismissals of Lood de Jager and Franco Mostert’s yellow, the officiating debates that roll endlessly through WhatsApp groups and YouTube channels – all of it feeds a sense that South Africa are forever judged by a harsher standard. For these supporters, beating Ireland isn’t just about rugby. It’s about vindication. Correction. Restoration.

Perhaps that’s why this rivalry now feels like the axis on which the sport turns. No other north-south fixture carries as much tactical depth, emotional residue, or mutual fixation. These are two nations that know each other’s scars, understand each other’s strengths, and refuse to yield an inch. In many ways the sport’s modern identity has crystallised around this collision – around the two teams who have pushed the game forward more than any other: Ireland with their seamless, detail-rich cohesion, and South Africa with their ability to bend opponents to their will through innovation, physical accuracy and a style that strips the sport back to its most essential truths.

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At the heart of all this is Erasmus, the man who built a dynasty from the rubble he found in 2018 yet still feels the cold breath of unfinished business on the back of his neck. He has climbed every mountain in this sport except the one that rises over Dublin’s southside. Until he plants a flag on that slope, the checklist remains incomplete. The Springboks may be world champions, double world champions, architects of the most formidable pressure system the game has seen. But until Erasmus beats Ireland in Ireland, the set is not finished. The itch goes unscratched. The final box stays unticked.

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Kaizer 13 days ago

Here is why -

IRE : 10 0 0 , 10 Worldcups attempts

Won : 0 semi finals , 0 Finals , 0 WC trophies


SA : 8 World Cup attempts

Won : 5 semi finals , 4 Finals , 4 WC trophies , and 3 Bronze medals


We respect them very much I love the Irish. I’ve been to Ireland 3 times . Amazing place , great people and an awesome team . But until they actually win a few trophies in knock out rugby or consistently finish in top 3 across a decade when the pressure is on and the world is watching I’m afraid I won’t see this rivalry in the same light as the rivalry we have with the All Blacks . Just being honest . Although I always look forward to SA IRE games .


At the end of the day ,


Rankings don’t fill trophy cabinets

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Stuart Lee 16 days ago

Bok fans don’t consider Ireland rugby inferior. We just don’t have time for dim-witted pundits and journalists.

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DS 16 days ago

Frankly, Daniel, you've written quite a lot of kak in your time, but this one has to be the worst. Or did you get ChatGT to do it? Whichever, both options are examples of extreme hallucinations, whether ‘human’ or digital. I won't rise to the bait in answering any further but will say I'll be watching your potential dross far more closely in future so you'd better be more careful.

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DG 15 days ago

“Won’t rise to the bait”.


Writes a nonsense reply.


What should I be careful of?

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CE 17 days ago

B.S article once again. We respect them, believe me. But if any team demands their dues in any sport, then they blady well better bring home the big silverware. Simple.

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Hammer Head 17 days ago

Fair

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Stuart Lee 17 days ago

In the context of who’s who and why in world rugby, only the Irish are concerned about winning or losing this particular match. If Ireland win, the Boks are still gonna be No.1. Win or lose, the Boks will remain favourites to win the next RWC and Rassie will still be in the Irish pundits heads. Truth is, Ireland need to beat the Boks…..the Boks do not need to win, this isn’t a RWC final or knockout game. Bok fans want to see an entertaining contest. By the by, good bet for 2027….Ireland not to make the semi-finals (as per usual).

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NS 17 days ago

Such a misleading clickbait headline. In no way shape or firm do we as fans disrespect or refuse to give Ireland the respect they are due.


If this is the level of journalism here then I will soon be blocking this site


It has become a rivalry over the years and the close ties we have with Irish players and coaches and vice-versa have made this a worthy rivalry.


End of story

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DG 16 days ago

‘End of story’ is such a punchy way to sign off an opinion.

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GrahamVF 17 days ago

Treating the South African rugby watching public as one homogenous group with a common essence is about as jingoistic as any of the vitriol in cyberspace. There is not one of my old rugby club mates who does not rate Ireland highly. Same goes for my group of friends with whom I watch the Springbok and URC games. Personally I have lived in Ireland and really like and respect the people there including their rugby teams. Of course Rassie wants to win in Dublin as he does in every other game. The fact that he has picked the strongest possible squad and is still wondering whether he has got it right is a testament to his respect. So some really silly statements in the article.

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GB 17 days ago

From SA here. We loved the Irish. Thought they were great, friendly, good sports etc.

Then they became #1 in the world, which is great. Loved that.

THEN… their pundits and especially their commentators couldn't go 2 sentences without the phrase “… the number 1 team in the world…”. It was All. The. Time.

“What great defense, exactly what you'd expect frome the no. 1 team in the world…”, “…emotional anthem for the no. 1 team in the world…”, “… bus carrying the no. 1 team in the world arriving…”, over and over and over.

We even created a drinking game around the phrase but had to cancel it before kickoff because we were all getting sozzled too quickky.


So that's why we’ve lost our pleasant outlook on Ireland, at least in my circles. We respect them, yes, but they've annoyed to exhaustion with the need to cling onto whatever they can through the ranking system.

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DV 17 days ago

Ireland are a very good team and 9 plus 7 still equals 16

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DG 17 days ago

My goodness. That’s a howler from me. My apologies! It’s so bad that you’re the only one who spotted it. I’ll address now.

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Ed the Duck 17 days ago

Reading a few of the posts on here it’s easy to see what O’Mahoney meant when he was talking about hysterical Irish fans recently.


Diddles and EE are great examples, but you might remember them better as ike and turdflow!

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Eric Elwood 17 days ago

Prendergast starting……All out attack.

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Hammer Head 17 days ago

Bottom rung defence though?

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Dave Didley 17 days ago

Gave the scoring pass for Hansen’s 2nd try and the kick pass for his 3rd try last day out. All while going at it and taking contact at the line.


Great opportunity for him.

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RoyceCoolidge 17 days ago

What has Ireland done to get equal billing with the Boks or any other RWC winners?

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Dave Didley 17 days ago

They’ve won 75% of their games against the Boks under Rassie’s time.

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Ed the Duck 17 days ago

They hand out T-shirts to teams that win in Dublin. Apparently…

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Eric Elwood 17 days ago

Ireland didn’t deserve equal billing versus Australia? Really? Didn’t we deserve equal billing against SA in 2023? SA do need taking down a peg.

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