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Ex-All Black Murray Mexted grades Razor's 2025 season

CARDIFF, WALES - NOVEMBER 22: Rieko Ioane of New Zealand celebrates scoring his team's fourth try during the Quilter Nations Series 2025 match between Wales and New Zealand at the Principality Stadium on November 22, 2025 in Cardiff, Wales. (Photo by Dan Mullan/Getty Images)

Former All Black Murray Mexted has graded the All Blacks‘ 2025 season a C-, but says that grade is a reflection of growing pains in a young squad with huge potential.

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While the three losses during the calendar year soured the 34-cap All Black’s review, Mexted is of the opinion that All Blacks coach Scott Robertson has filtered out some players who were not up to the task, and replaced them with up-and-comers who will serve the black jersey well over the years to come.

While that bodes well for the All Blacks’ future, it doesn’t necessarily provide tangible results during the season, as Mexted explained after revealing his season grade.

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“They haven’t improved at all in my view,” he told Martin Devlin on DSPN. “But what they have done is sort out a few guys who aren’t up to it and found a few guys who are up to it, but we haven’t seen the fruits of their labour yet. I think that will come through next year. That’s what I’m hoping.”

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The former New Zealand captain went on to analyse the forward pack, delivering verdicts on the front, second, and back rows, respectively.

“The front row at the moment, I think, looks really healthy,” he said. ” But I don’t think I’ve seen the All Blacks forward pack go back as I have in the last three weeks. It’s incredible that we are going backwards in the scrum.

“You’d have to say that there are scrums out there – England’s an example, South Africa’s another example – remember we’re marking ourselves against the top teams, No.1, not against No.4, or No.5 or No.6. We got beaten in the scrum by both South Africa and England.

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“That’s not sorted yet, but I think it’s pretty much sorted. He’s found a whole lot of players; there are at least two in every position. Jason Ryan has done a marvellous job; you don’t build these guys overnight.

“Tamaiti Williams is an example, he came on so quickly, everyone thought, ‘there’s the solution, he’s a huge man who can dominate every scrum in the world’. Well, that’s proven to be incorrect. His body’s been reshaped, and he’s got huge potential, greater potential than I’ve seen in that front row.

“When you look at his sheer size, I don’t think we’ve had a front row forward as big as Tamaiti Williams, and I think it’s a wonderful strength.

“It’s not just him; it’s right across the board. (Pasilio) Tosi has come on enormously; that’s a big achievement. He used to play No.8, so he’s a ball-carrier as well. He’s there for scrummaging to start with, and it looks to me like he’s got the business.

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“We’ve got some growth there, there’s no doubt about it. Next year they will get better and better, and by the World Cup they will be ready.”

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Shifting his attention to the second row, there was more optimism over the promise of the emerging talent.

“The locks are the same,” he said. “Half a dozen games ago, I was worried about the size of our locks, because (Tupou) Vaa’i was being picked consistently as a lock when I think we need him as a loose forward. He’s definitely smart enough.

“I’m happy with what’s happening with the locks. By bringing on (Fabian) Holland and, of course, (Josh) Lord – he was a great success in the last match with the number of opposition balls he won in the lineout.

“So, Lord, Barrett, Holland, and in the background, we’ve still got (Patrick) Tuipulotu, and we’ve got (Sam) Darry, who’s genuinely big. I think we’re looking good there for the Rugby World Cup.

“It’s still a C-, they’re still learning their trade at that level, and they will all get better and better because they’ve got that potential.”

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The former No.8 was not as convinced with the current loose forward stocks, however.

“At one stage, we had such strength in the loose forwards that if you picked a world XV, two of our three players would make it. You pick a world XV now, and that’s not going to happen. There are so many other players around the world in the loose forward who are better than we are at the moment.

“I still think they’re fooling around with the positions. (Peter) Lakai is in the running now, and (Wallace) Sititi is really good with the ball in hand. It’s hard to see on TV, so I can’t be much of a critic. But the jury’s out on those two players.

“I’ve seen a bit more of Lakai at the Hurricanes; he’s quite good and experienced as a seven and an eight. Where’s his ultimate position? I think he’s going to end up at openside flanker. So, therefore, I still worry, have we seen a new No.8? I think we need to be looking at guys who are coming through now.”

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Blackmania 17 days ago

MM says good things… things, however, that any follower of NZ rugby already knows. The talent is there, the big bodies are there, but the puzzle still isn’t put together properly. If Frizell comes back well in 2026, he will automatically be the starting No.6, Savea at 7, and Sititi and Lakai battling for the No.8 spot. With backups like Parker, Flanders, Lio-Willie, Papalii, the depth is strong and full of quality. Let’s move on from the smaller bodies like Kirifi. A very brave rugby player with a lot of heart, but too small for this level.


I share his view on Tamaiti Williams. For me, he would automatically start at loosehead or tighthead. De Groot doesn’t bring much to the table… I’ve said it for a long time and I don’t understand this selection.


Tosi is developing well. We shouldn’t forget he’s only been a prop for what, 3–4 years? I actually wonder if Williams and Tosi won’t be the two starters in 2027. Lomax is getting older and is injured a lot. Newell remains a good option, but I find him more limited in open play.


In the second row the All Blacks have no issues; the depth is full. The remaining problem is the automatic selection of Scott Barrett, especially as captain. In sporting terms, Holland and Vaa’i seem to be the best combination.

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SC 17 days ago

I listened to that entire podcast on DSPN with Mexted and its clear he is frustrated with the lack of size of NZ’s loose forwards being selected to play 6 and 8 by Super Rugby franchises.


Mexted laments the number of 1.95- 1.98m players being selected to play lock at Super Rugby level as crippling the All Blacks as he argues forwards in this size range should be playing 6 or 8. Two examples he gives is Tupou Vaa’i and Notiah Ah-Kuoi who start at lock at the Chiefs but should be playing exclusively 6 (Vaa’i) and 8 (Au-Kuoi).


Obviously this criticism is directed at all franchises. For example, Jamie Hannah (1.97m) and Tahlor Cahill (1.98m) at Crusaders are never going to play test rugby at lock but possibly could at 6 and 8 respectively.


The impact of playing these forwards at lock at Super Rugby has resulted in a surplus of small undersized players playing 6 and 8 at Super Rugby who are below 1.90m- Sititi, Lakai, Lio-Willie, and Iose and not suited for starting at 6 or 8 in test rugby. Mexted loves Savea and Lakai at 7 where height is not as important.


I agree with Mexted that the All Blacks require a legitimately big man at 6 (Frizell, Vaa’i, or Parker) while accepting that at 8 you need the most powerful, explosive ball carrier available and, while Jasper Weise is the prototype at 1.93m, the All Blacks may need to sacrifice height at 8 for ball carrying power. Sititi is the hardest running loose forward in NZ and is my choice.


6 Frizell, Vaa’i, Parker

7 Savea, Papalii, Jacobson

8 Sititi, Lakai, Flanders

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JW 16 days ago

You’ve got the perspective all wrong dude, MM is alright, ‘lament’ is probably the right term. You think they should fill lock with 1.8 leftover guys instead!


There a few taller prospects coming through, so things have been changing recently and its added a nice point of difference to the rugby too. Evry SR team want be able to immediately change but it would be nice if one or two could be asked to shift some of their size back fruther year, I’m actually looking forward to seeing more of Parker in his natural number 8 position.

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TokoRFC 17 days ago

Im not sure Frizell is as good as his hype. Other than Albany what has he done?


I’m not being dismissive, I’m wondering because I didn’t follow much super rugby from covid to 2023

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Koro Teeps 17 days ago

Thats because we simply dont have many 200cm+ locks who are Super standard.

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Wontonaroo 18 days ago

Yes the loose forwards have certainly been disappointing in both defence and at the breakdown. Not making enough tackles. Not winning collisions.


Carrying is a big focus for the current loose forwards but there is almost not a single one who can make a hard carry over the advantage line close to the ruck like Kaino and JC used to do for us. Maybe Finau but that’s about it. Parker has a good workrate but lacks aggression. He reminds me of Reuben Thorne - but more Reuben Thorne lite. A pity because I had high hopes for him..


As Mexted alluded to most of our loose forwards are simply too small. That’s why he’s mentioning Vaa’i as an option at 6 and Lakai is a 7.

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Nickers 18 days ago

Parker is a young man in his first season in the big time. Don’t write him off just yet! Good grief!


It took Jerome Kaino many years to become what we compare every number 6 to.

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