'We were finding out about stuff in the bloody Daily Mail'
Wasps’ Lima Sopoaga has cried foul over the way players across the Gallagher Premiership generally found out about wage cuts via the media rather than through proper club channels. The game in England has been in financial turmoil since the outbreak of the coronavirus pandemic led to the suspension of the 2019/20 campaign.
It was followed by a temporary 25 per cent wage cut that has since become permanent as clubs struggle to balance their books ahead of the targeted August 15 restart of the league.
The layoff led to four months of speculation and rumour affecting the game and reflecting on the fallout, former All Blacks international Sopoaga wishes the matter was handled far more diplomatically rather than getting played out in the media.
Appearing on the latest episode of The Lockdown, the RugbyPass pandemic interview series hosted by Jim Hamilton, Sopoaga explained: “The game here (in the UK) is very business orientated. Like, it’s driven by the business first rather than the culture of the team.
“If you get the culture of the team right, the business will succeed. But here it’s maybe get the business right and then the team should succeed. That is what I feel coming from where I have come from (New Zealand).
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“In terms of pay cuts, these are trying times for everybody, not just rugby but around the world. I get that at some point players are going to have to make sacrifices. Everybody around the world is making sacrifices at the moment and for some of us, we are still getting paid while we were not even training for the last three or four months.
“The way I’d see it is you are getting 75 per cent of 100 which is better than 0 per cent of 100. But at the same time, I understand that rugby is a business and we are the product. Without rugby players, you don’t have a product.
“There needed to be more transparency between clubs and players, more open chats and more open dialogue because we were finding out about stuff in the bloody Daily Mail, you know what I mean?
“Guys were messaging each other on Instagram: ‘Like bro, I’m hearing you are getting pay cuts’. This is guys from other English clubs and I’m just like, ‘Bro I have no f***in’ clue’. But then you hear 25 per cent: 25 per cent is a bloody lot of quid, you know what I mean?
“So there wasn’t enough open transparency, there wasn’t enough open dialogue between clubs and players and that is why you have kind of got guys like at Leicester all of a sudden just walking out.
“That is how it is being portrayed, that they have walked out on their clubs but actually that is not really the truth is it? They are well within their rights to reserve their rights and then being told you have to sign this by this date at 25 per cent less or else.
“Guys have decided that isn’t what I need to do right now and fair f***s to them because they stood their ground. Like I said before, it is a business and we are the product.
“As a collective, as rugby players, we have got to understand that and I listened to a podcast the other day with Ellie (Genge) talking and it was a really good eye-opener to everything he was trying to do (with his now shelved players’ union plan)
“He was on the right path but it is scary times at the moment and guys are separated. Maybe if as players we were together as a collective we would have had more power over what happened, what has been happening and what is going to happen for the game going forward.”
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Very unlikely the Bulls will beat Leinster in Dublin. It would be different in Pretoria.
1 Go to commentsI think it is a dangerous path to go down to ban a player for the same period that a player they injured takes to recover. Players would be afraid to tackle anyone. I once tackled my best friend at school in a practice match and sprained his ankle. I paid for it by having to play fly-half instead of full-back for the rest of that season’s fixtures.
5 Go to commentsJust such a genuine good bloke…and probably the best all round player in his generation. Good guys do come first sometimes and he handled the W.Cup loss with great attitude.
2 Go to commentsWord in France is that he’s on the radar of a few Top14 clubs.
2 Go to commentsGet blocking Travis, this guy has styles and he’s gonna make a swift impact…!
1 Go to commentsWhat remorse? She claimed that her dangerous tackle wasn’t worthy of a red! She should be compensating the injured player for loss of earnings at the minimum. Her ban should include the recovery time of the injured player as well as the paltry 3 match ban.
5 Go to commentsArdie is a legend. Finished and klaar. Two things: “Yeah, yeah, I have had a few conversations with Razor just around feedback on my game and what I am doing well, what I need to improve on or work-ons. It’s kind of been minimal, mate, but it’s all that I need over here in terms of how to be better, how to get better and what I am doing well.” I hope he’s downplaying it - and that it’s not that “minimal”. The amount of communication and behind the scenes preparation the Bok coaches put into players - Rassie and co would be all over Ardie and being clear on what is expected of him. This stands out for me as something teams should really be looking at in terms of the boks success from a coaching point of view. And was surprised by the comment - “minimal”. In terms of the “debate” around Ireland and South Africa. Nice one Ardie. Indeed. There’s no debate.
2 Go to commentsThere’s a bit of depth there but realistically Australian players have a long way to go to now catch up. The game is moving on fast and Australia are falling behind. Australian sides still don’t priories the breakdown like they should, it’s a non-negotiable if you want to compete on the international stage. That goes for forwards and backs. The Australian team could have a back row that could make a difference but the problem is they don’t have a tight five that can do the business. Tupou is limited in defence, overweight and unfit and the locks are a long way from international standard. Frost is soft and Salakai-Loto is too small so that means they need a Valentini at 8 who has to do the hard graft so limits the effectiveness of the backrow. Schmidt really needs to get a hard working, tough tight 5 if he wants to get this team firing.
3 Go to commentsSorry Morgan you must have been the “go to for a quote” ex player this week. Its rnd 6 and there is plenty of time to cement a starting 15 and finishing 8 so I have no such concerns.
2 Go to commentsGreat read. I wish you had done this article on the ROAR.
2 Go to commentsThe current AB coaching team is basically the Crusaders so it smacks of wanting their familiar leaders around. This is not a good look for the future of the ABs or the younger players in Super working their way up the player ladder. Razor is touted as innovative, forward looking but his early moves look like insecurity and insular, provincial thinking. He is the AB's coach not the Golden Oldies.
10 Go to commentsSimple reason for wanting him back. Robertson wants him as captain. Otherwise he wouldn’t be bothering chasing him. Not enough reason to come back just to mentor.
10 Go to commentsI had not considered this topic like this at all, brilliant read. I had been looking at his record at the Waratahs and thought it odd the Crusaders appointed him, then couple that with all that experience and talent departing and boom. They’ve got some great talent developing though, and in all honesty I don’t think anyone would be over confident taking them on in a playoff match, no matter how poor the first half of their season was. I think they can pull a game out of their ass when it counts.
2 Go to commentsNot a bad list but not Porecki and not Donaldson. Not because they are Tahs, or Ex Tahs, they are just not good enough. Edmed should be ahead. Far more potential. Wilson should be 8 and Valentini 6. Wilson needs to be told by his father and his coach, stop bloody running in to brick wall defence. You’re not playing under the genius Thorn any more. He’s a fantastic angle runner. The young new 8 from the Brumbies looks really good too. The Lonegrans are just too small for international rugby as is Paisami, as is Hamish Stewart at 12. Both great at Super Rugby level. Stewart could have been a great 10 if not for Brad Thorn. Uru should be there and so should Tupou. Tupou just needs good Australian coaching which he hasn’t been getting. I don’t think Schmidt will excite him.
3 Go to commentsIf he wants to come back then he should. He will be a major asset to the younger locks and could easily be played as an impact player off the bench coming on in the last 30. He is fit, strong and capable and has all the experience to make up for any loss in physical prowess. He could also be brought back with a view to coaching within the structures one day. Duane Vermeulen played until he was 37 or 38. He is now a roaming coach within the South African coaching structures. He was valuable in the last world cup and has been a major influence on Jasper Wiese and other young players which has helped and accelerated their development and growth. Whitelock could do the exact same thing for NZ
10 Go to commentsBrett Excellent words… finally someone (other than DC) has noted that Hanigan is very hard and very good at doing what Backrow should do… his performance via the Drua sauna was quite daunting for those on the other side… very high tackle count… carries with good end result… constant threat to make a good 20-25 meters with those long legs… providing his mass effectively to crunching the Drua pack… Finally he is returning to quality form… way to much injury time over the last 2 years… smart-strong-competent in his skills… caught every lineout throw aimed at him and delivered clean pass to whoever was down below… and he worked hard for the whole 80 minutes… Ned has to be in the top 5 for backrow honors… He knows what is required as he has been there before…
20 Go to commentsI think Sam Whitelock should not touch a return with a bargepole. He went out on a high, playing in the RWC Final. He would be coming back into a team that will be weaker than last years, and might even be struggling to win games, especially against the Boks. Stay in France, enjoy another year with Pau, playing alongside his brother.
10 Go to commentsRyan Coxon has been very impressive considering he was signed by WF as injury cover whilst Uru has been a standout for QR, surprised neither of those mentioned
3 Go to commentsIt’s the massive value he brings with regard team culture/values, preparation, etc. Can’t buy that. I’m hoping to see the young locks get their chance in the big games though.
10 Go to commentsAll good, Gregor, except that you neglected to mention Sam Darry amongst that talented pool of locks. In fact, given Hannah’s inexperience and the fact that Holland won’t be eligible until next year, Lord and Darry might be the frontrunners this year, to join Barrett, Tuipoluto, Va’ii and possibly Whitelock. In fact there might be room for all of them if Barrett played 6 (like Ollie Chessum).
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