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Watch - Video purporting to reveal Bongi Mbonambi and Tom Curry incident emerges

Bongi Mbonambi in training - PA

A video that appears to reveal the audio from the Bongi Mbonambi and Tom Curry incident during the Rugby World Cup semi-final between South Africa and England has emerged online.

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World Rugby is investigating an allegation made by Curry that he was racially abused by South Africa hooker Bongi Mbonambi in the first half of Saturday’s semi-final defeat.

Curry claimed to referee Ben O’Keeffe that he was called a “white c***” by Mbonambi and, after a complaint made by the Rugby Football Union, audio and video footage is being examined for evidence.

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WATCH as Springbok scrum coach Daan Human fronts up to a group of English media hacks, while the Bongi Mbonambi saga escalates

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WATCH as Springbok scrum coach Daan Human fronts up to a group of English media hacks, while the Bongi Mbonambi saga escalates

Now video of the incident is doing the rounds on X and a player can be heard shouting a phrase not dissimilar to what is being alleged.

Many Afrikaans Springboks supporters believe Mbonambi said ‘Wit kant’ or ‘wyd kant’ which loosely translates as ‘white side’ or ‘open side’ respectively,  although other accounts suggest Mbonambi – who went to English-speaking private school St. Alban’s College – is not a speaker of the language.

Cape Saakie posted the video on X, which is being pored over by rugby fans eager to work out what exactly was said:

Whether the audio on the clip is viewed as compelling evidence in either direction is very much anyone’s guess.

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World Rugby was on Tuesday evening unable to provide any update on its investigation into the allegation made against Mbonambi but intends on completing the process as quickly as possibly.

“I haven’t discussed that [with him]. But to be straightforward and honest with you, he is a calm guy,” said assistant coach Daan Human was asked about the scandal today. “He is well spoken and I don’t want to actually go into it because we have a World Cup final in six days’ time. Like I said I am more concentrated on the forwards.

“I can tell you one thing, we have three hookers [including Deon Fourie and Marco van Staden] in the group. Three guys who are capable of playing hooker so we are very comfortable having three hookers. If you want to go into a final, you must have two hookers.”

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Graham 626 days ago

Clearly the supposed insult was not spoken in a whisper. Yet not one English player - and there were at least five within earshot - backed Curry up or gave evidence on his behalf at the enquiry. Don’t you English supporters think that’s a bit strange? Or if it did take place did his team mates not back him because he is universally unpopular and they agreed with the insult.

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JD 626 days ago

Whinging, whining, grumbling, complaining. A sense of entitlement that knows no bounds. No wonder everybody dislikes England. I don’t know when next England is due to play in South Africa, but if Curry is there, I wish him luck.

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Grant 627 days ago

Any journalist worth his salt would soon discover that St Albans is in a VERY Afrikaans speaking city, Pretoria.


As an old boy of that school - I can attest that playing against local schools, you learnt the value of speaking Afrikaans …


C’mon Ian Cameron - grow a pair and retract this shite.

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Marc 627 days ago

The reaction from Ben O'Keefe is curious, how would he feel if a similar comment was made about him? Would he expect an official to respond in the same way that he did?

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JD 626 days ago

You assume Bongi is guilty. You can’t know that, yet you rush to judgement. I’m amazed at your arrogance.

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Wayne 627 days ago

‘The subsequent World Rugby investigation were informed by Tom Curry that he had also been the victim of the same abuse, from the same player, in the autumn Test 2022. So Bongi has got away with it again.

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JD 626 days ago

Try looking at it from the point of view that Curry might have provoked Bongi. Given that England has a reputation for provoking, I’ll bet that’s exactly what happened. Bloody baby. Running to the ref.

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Grant 627 days ago

… and they didnt investigate THEN?


Maybe they knew that it was a simple case of misunderstanding and a case of a snowflake stirring up a case of absolutely f-all …


Is this Englands new meme ala Suzi of the killer prawns?


i lost a game of rugger because big-bad boy over there called me a bad name in his own (different) language … boo hoo hoo


simple bollocks

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A 628 days ago

Even if Bongi said white cunt (doubt it or think he meant the SA way) it wouldn’t make it racism or a racist act. It’s still an insult because cunt was used but just because a race descriptor is used isn’t by itself racist. Unless there’s context to suggest that the phrase was used to denigrate all people of a particular race, you can’t assume that. I just think it’s dumb to say that just because someone says that white guy or this black guy, it’s suddenly become racist. It would be racist if someone used a racial slur but just pointing out the race of an individual, doesn’t make it racist.

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RS 628 days ago

I have travelled every part of South Africa, North South, East, West, and whenever I encountered a black person I would always start in Afrikaans. I have never encountered any black who could not speak Afrikaans.

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JL 628 days ago

RP won’t report this because it doesn’t suit WR and Ben Smith’s agenda, but South Africa’s largest and most credible news organisation has just revealed some stunning facts about this case. It’s deeply deeply disturbing. Turns out, Curry’s complaint concerns something said by Bongi in the December 2022 game. Yes, you read that correctly. This means Curry’s attack on Bongi was premeditated and he knew EXACTLY what he was doing. This is so vile and disappointing, one can only be lost for words…. The fact that WR continues to “investigate” this farce, and have PR (its propaganda arm) cover for it in this regard, is shameful in a week leading up to the RWC.

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Flankly 628 days ago

It’s an ai-style article, with vague references to groups of people that say X or Y, and zero research or even critical thinking by the writer.


If there was a clear and obvious racial slur then deal with it. Otherwise assume innocence and move on.


This can’t be the thing most sensible people care about in a RWC final week?

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Sumkunn Tsadmiova 629 days ago

So Bongi went to a private English-speaking school yet can't speak English. He's, allegedly, an international hooker yet he can't remotely throw straight. Presumably if he fell into a barrel of tits he'd come out sucking his thumb..

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Matthew 629 days ago

Bongi speaks perfect English


1. So does the opposition who they dont want to alert

2. All the guys around him were Afrikaans speakers

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Micah 629 days ago

Why are you crying about it though?

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Jacque 629 days ago

You are so late with this Cameron🤣🤣🤣🤣

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YeowNotEven 629 days ago

I think a black South African getting in trouble for a racial slur against a white Englishman is freakin’ hilarious.

I wouldn’t laugh if it was the other way around though, for reasons you can google yourself.

I think Tom Curry should just get on with his life. (And perhaps try to be less of a c word in the future so this doesn’t happen again).

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Trevor 629 days ago

Early SA settlers were Dutch, and the word kant in Dutch means side. Try asking your wife/girlfriend to tell you to choose her best side in Dutch.

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Barry 628 days ago

Settlers is a lovely word for colonisers.

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Damaverick 629 days ago

wit kant; swart kant; noger kant - who gives a flying f; I even heard our dominee who play's #8 for Amersfoort 2nd's frequently use the kant word - mostly aimed at Dwars van Rensburg who hates losing and always attack's from the kant giving away stupid penalties; so leave Bongi alone

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Jonathan 629 days ago

This “incident” happened in the first half = 40 minutes of audio feeds yet its taking DAYS upon DAYS for this to be sorted out! Boks should boycott the final

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Dawid 629 days ago

“suggest Mbonambi – who went to English-speaking private school St. Alban’s College – is not a speaker of the language.”


Bongi is from Bethlehem… Rugbypass, are you insinuating that a black man from the Free State wouldn’t know how to speak Afrikaans unless a Private school educates them?

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FC 629 days ago

Looks like Rugbypass is a lot more racist with their inferences than Bongi will ever be…

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Leon 629 days ago

This is normal male talk between males, probably an endearment.

Just Curry crying wolf and seeking attention.zzzzzzzz

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Pierre 629 days ago

This video only shows what Curry alleged were is the actual evidence. It would be great to hear from Bongni as to why this has been alleged media only taking Currys word. If it's true it needs to be delt with promptly and with out delay so that SA and NZ can focus on the final. Really interesting how NZ had a news conference and got dragged into the debate by the media. Rugby pass why don't you focus on the final that is this coming weekend and not last weeks game let the authorities deal with the alleged incident. Also why is the media not reporting on how Farrel verbally abused the ref when marched 10.

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Barclay 629 days ago

World rugby is looking into different off the ball exchange.

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sean 629 days ago

Has someone bothered to explain to the journo Afrikaans is taught as a second language in all schools and most South Africans are fluent in the language furthermore all communication in the springbok team during a match is in Afrikaans

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Head high tackle 629 days ago

Thats BS for starters. He knows English and its infact his first language. He can call anyone a C if he is so inclined to but putting WHITE in front of it makes it a racist comment.

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Chris 629 days ago

All you can hear is an allegation from an England player! How sad is it that in World Cup final week we are not celebrating rugby, but instead going on a wild goose chase against the springboks. I hope this galvanises the team and brings out the best in them.

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Wesley 629 days ago

oh my word, Ian Cameron, got it, thanks for warning me, toss of an article, chop

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LC 629 days ago

If something is actually is made of this the can of worms that it would open could not be quantified. Every non native English speaking team ( 14 out of 20 teams) would have to scrutinises every word they use in their respective native tongues to make sure that what they say doesn’t sound remotely like a swear word to the fragile snowflakes.

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Damaverick 629 days ago

‘van die kant’ = ‘from the side’ - & sounds just like the ‘C ‘ word in Afrikaans or English; .. but thanks for invigorating the kant viewpoint

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Head high tackle 629 days ago

Is Africann constantly changable? Ive seen 8 different versions now of what he said in Africaan. Only 1 version of English.

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DO 629 days ago

My God this is a moronic article. How can you write that “wit kant” “loosely translates" to “white side"...? It LITERALLY translates to white side. Wit=white, kant=side. There is not other way to translate it. Also, how can you be a rugby journalist and lend credence to the statement that because Bongi went to an English school he wouldn’t speak in Afrikaans on the field. The boks speak in Afrikaans because its a way to communicate without the opposition understanding. Even English people in SA understand Afrikaans…you think Pat Lambie didn’t speak in Afrikaans on the field because he went to Michaelhouse? Of course he did. Rugbypass needs to up their game in terms of employing journalists who actually know anything about the sport.

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FC 629 days ago

Or journalists who know ANYTHING about ANYTHING. This is what you get when you give a generation participation trophies…

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JL 629 days ago

It’s moronic but also very deliberate. RP now also owns R365. I thought Rassie was crazy, but there seems to be a clear anti-SA agenda at RP. This article confirms it.

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Bob Marler 629 days ago

Just imagine what they call you in isiZulu and isiXhosa.


Yoh yoh yoh. Qaphela.

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Bob Marler 629 days ago

The boks are going to have to watch their Ps and Qs this weekend against the Swart Kant.

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Head high tackle 629 days ago

Thanks for proving the charges correct. You just did what he did and he thought he was being a smarty arse. Is it a SA thing.

What does Wit Kut mean in Africann eh? Maybe thats what he is CLEARLY SAYING.

Certainly sounds that way for sure.

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Michael Röbbins (academic and writer extraordinair 629 days ago

Well did cheeky wee Faf sling his WC Gold medal around Tommy’s neck once he got back to Sale four years ago.

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CE 629 days ago

Of course he speaks Afrikaans you idiots. He’d have studied it at school and spoken it in the Freestate ,all the time. How convenient for the boks that a word in afrikaans translates to “side” and sound like c**t. Let me guess ,the boks just made that up to cover their asses. Another genius move from Rassie. Another gem from R.P , do you imbeciles have poetic license to write crap???

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FC 629 days ago

We should start a petition that all English speaking teams then refrain from using the word “push”, since it sounds like “p0es”.

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FC 629 days ago

This is another RugbyPass article that splits the truth into malicious lies. Bongi comes from an Afrikaans region in South Africa, and historically, the Springbok team made their calls in Afrikaans to gain an advantage. No one batted an eye when Faf used the words “jou kant” to mean “your side” towards the end of the match. But I guess first-world xenophobia explodes when a third-world nation wipes the floor with its brightest and best! Regarding the recording - this is like a vicious episode of misheard song lyrics where the instigator wants the audience to hear what he says they should hear.

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CB 629 days ago

You're right this is clearly due to the fact England lost and wanting to try and help NZ to win, nothing more to it. Must be said Curry showed some incredible foresight by telling that to the ref during the game by already knowing the result.


If only they could show the same decorum and sensibility of Rassie.

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JL 629 days ago

Completely agreed. I’ve got a feeling this article was written by Ben Smith.

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Bob Marler 629 days ago

I can’t hear Jack Shit.


Move on.

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JL 629 days ago

I can only imagine a couple of sweaty palmed beady eyed WR officials scouring over the footage, giddy and breathless as they try to “find” “evidence” of racial abuse. Sir ! Sir ! Tally ho! Would you believe it, I found it Sir! He called him a massive P!

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Jonathan 629 days ago

“although other accounts suggest Mbonambi – who went to English speaking private school St. Alban’s College – is not a speaker of the language.”

He grew up in Bethlehem in Easter Free State, which predominantly runs on the farming in the area (majority Afrikaans). He most probably had Afrikaans as first additional language in school, he’s been involved from 2008 at the Bulls - which is predominantly Afrikaans, been involved with Springboks from 2016, which is a large portion Afrikaans. Heck, even the Boks call most their set piece calls in Afrikaans, never mind team communication week in and week out. But I back the writer referencing other people here, Bongi surely can’t speak (even a bit) Afrikaans…

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JL 629 days ago

Completely agreed. I hate to say it, but the article is malicious. It’s common knowledge that Bongi is 100% fluent in Afrikaans.

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JL 629 days ago

The suggestion here by RugbyPass, or rather, the attempt by RP to lend credence to the idea that Bongi is not a speaker of Afrikaans, is either deliberate and laced with malice, or, journalistic malpractice. Bongi speaks fluent Afrikaans, born and bred Bethlehem, Vrystaat and it’s common knowledge that he calls plays in Afrikaans. There are also countless videos and interviews of Bongi speaking Afrikaans in that beautiful accent unique to black South Africans from the Free State. This is what feeds into Rassie’s narrative of a Rugbypass/WR vendetta against South Africa and the Springboks. Can’t blame them if this article is anything to judge by.

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DD 629 days ago

Wait a moment. Bongi was a stand in for Marx. Following Marx injury Rassie did not take up the option of calling in a quality hooker such as Dweba. He opted for Pollard and a never heard again, Am. Fourie is a stand in for a stand in, and is not reliable as exposed against Ireland. Bongi is not a quality hooker but is, by far, the best now in the SA 33. Without him they are well and truly stuffed.

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FC 629 days ago

Obvious you know diddly-squat about rugby, especially SA rugby.

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Lydia 629 days ago

You wish.

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Bob Marler 629 days ago

Nah. They’d be fine. After all, they’ve made it this far without a quality hooker. Obviously not important.

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FC 629 days ago

You seem to forget that Bongi has started most South African games in the past year. He is not only one of the best hookers and scrummagers in South Africa, but in the world! His quality is the reason for this reprehensible cheap shot by a thuggish English player.

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JL 629 days ago

Yes, without Bongi, the Boks are definitely stuffed. They’d be left with a 38 year old flanker as the starting hooker with another flanker as his back-up. What a remarkable turn of events for WR to be taking its time with this matter. Must be scouring all available footage to “find” evidence of a black south african racially “abusing” a privileged white man from England, the country that colonised and pillaged it for decades. Astounding! Not one sane person in South Africa will consider it “racial abuse” to be called a white “C.” What a joke!

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Jfp123 37 minutes ago
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Sorry, I don’t think all your points hold water.


You agree that the Top14 was sticking within the rules. Describing it as ‘attack’ing international rugby isn’t fair. It’s simply doing it’s own thing, which benefits many other rugby nations too, more of which below. NZ rugby has one system of earning money, the French have another, and it looks to me like theirs is more successful, but that’s no reason to try and shoot it down. Unlike some NZ commentators, I haven’t heard any of the French expressing the wish to interfere with how NZ organise their domestic competition and finances. Different circumstances require different arrangements.


The way you talked about earning money from home internationals, it sounds as if you think the French B team are depriving NZ of income. Really? Instead accusing the French of acting badly, wouldn’t it be better to think of ways of improving the NZ system, even it’s just being more careful who’s invited on tour. It’s well known France never send out their top players in summer.


In any case, the charge of loss of income doesn’t seem to be backed by the facts. As far as I’m aware there haven’t been any complaints about the size of the TV deal. It’s been reported that the NZ- France summer internationals are sell outs, and since you or another New Zealander - I can’t remember which set of comments it was - was complaining about how outrageously high the ticket prices are, it doesn’t sound as if NZ rugby has lowered prices and been hit in the pocket - NZ can’t have it both ways.


If NZ were to have a rethink and follow the example of SA and Scotland to allow players who sign on with a Top14 team to play for the ABs, I think NZ could use the Top14 for its own benefit. Players often improve through being exposed to different approaches, and previously hidden talent can come to light. Cheslin Kolbe was overlooked by the SA main team, until his immense talent was showcased during his time at Toulouse. More recently, Jack Willis and Blair Kinghorn have both acknowledged that Toulouse has helped them broaden and develop their skills - Willis has done quite a lot of interviews which are freely accessible online, if you want to hear what he says. Scotland have benefited, but England haven’t because of their self-imposed rules. From what Willis said around the time of the WC when he had special dispensation to play for England in consideration of the Wasps debacle, it seems Toulouse encourage their foreign players in their international ambitions, rather than acting as an insurmountable obstacle.


I don’t see where your point about home grown talent is coming from. The vast majority of the French team IS home grown talent. Listen to Squidge’s or 2 Cents podcasts on the subject before the last WC. Mauvaka and Moefana both were born in islands which are part of a French overseas territory, came to France young, trained there and have French nationality, Meafou was rejected by Aussie clubs as too large, and was advised to go to France where they appreciate size to get an opportunity to continue his career - do you think he should have been left on the scrap heap in Oz? The only French international I can think of who came from NZ is Uini Atonio, he doesn’t seem to have been appreciated in NZ and has played his entire senior club career at La Rochelle, where he’ll become a player/coach next season; he’s actually of Samoan heritage. I’ve read that NZ was interested in Patrick Tuifua, but he was born in the French territory of New Caledonia, not NZ and is moving to Toulon. Marchand, Aldegheri, Baille, Gros, Cros, Jelonche, Alldritt, Ollivon, Dupont, Penaud, LBB Lucu, Ramos, Fikou, Barrassi, Villiere etc, are all indisputably French, Ntamack is French on his mother’s side, 2nd generation French on his father’s side and has played for Toulouse since infancy, Pasolo Tuilagi has lived in France since the age of 3 and is French, similarly Joshua Brennan. I believe they have both declared their desire to play for the country where they grew up, not Samoa or Ireland. Flament, it’s true, is from Belgium, but his talents could hardly have flourished fully in a team which almost certainly isn’t fully professional. A rugby side is 15 with 8 on the bench in France as everywhere else, packed with all these talented native players, they’re not going to suck the life out of other nations. In fact, there’s a counter example. Capuozzo was born and raised in France, and I’ve heard it said both that he began playing for Italy is because he didn’t think he’d make the French team, or alternatively, that he preferred to play for the country of his paternal grandparents.


I can’t see why you say NZ, England and Ireland are more homegrown than that. De Groot, Lomax (Aus), Frizzell, Fainga’anuku (Tonga) and Christie (Scotland) and other ABs weren’t born in NZ, some of them played for other countries at U20 level, and isn’t your new guy from the Netherlands? England welcomes players born abroad, eg Manu Tuilagi, and Feyi Waboso (born and grew up in Wales who could really do with his talent). And as for Ireland, they are arguably the least home grown of the lot, as Jamison Gibson Park, James Lowe, Bundee Aki and Mack Hansen were not only not born in Ireland, they weren’t brought up there either. This is not a criticism, as I don’t think it’s an issue to get hung up about.


If you’re referring to the number of foreign players in the Top14, ProD2, I reckon it’s a good thing. Players from upcoming second tier nations like Uruguay, Spain and Portugal are exposed to top flight competition and can play fulltime - where else would they get such a good chance to hone their skills? Argentina too is strengthened when it comes to the WC, even if not all their Top 14 players can play in every set of internationals - they still play in a lot of them. Then there the ex-internationals who get a chance to earn decent money before they retire, and enjoy thrill of French rugby. I reckon they deserve that and it shows good money can be earned from rugby, which must help stop talented youngsters from turning to other sports.


I don’t think the Top14 should be charged with making rugby financially unsustainable. I don’t think its existence was the reason Wasps, London Irish and Worcester Warriors went bust. Covid, the English system and the clubs themselves were to blame. I don’t think the Top 14 is the threat you think it is to other nations - the Top 14 and Pro D2 may be large and wealthy, but they’re not infinitely large mopping up all the top players from across the world, they have to obey strictly enforced rules about a compulsory number of Jiff players and a salary cap, which if you count the special allowances for marquee players etc, is comparable in size to the English one. That’s not to say some of the French clubs aren’t very rich, have excellent facilities etc., it’s just they can’t spend all their money on players wages.

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