'That's just crap': Ex-All Blacks blast RA chairman over Super Rugby Pacific threat
A trio of former All Blacks have taken Rugby Australia [RA] chairman Hamish McLennan to task over his threat that the Australian franchises may abandon Super Rugby Pacific.
McLennan dropped a bombshell last week when he told Fox Sports that RA is strongly considering forging ahead with Super Rugby on its own and create a domestic competition to rival the NRL and AFL from 2024 onwards.
McLennan has reportedly informed New Zealand Rugby [NZR] chairman Stewart Mitchell of RA’s stance on the matter, and that “all bets are off” with NZR beyond the two organisation’s Super Rugby Pacific partnership, which expires next year.
It’s believed an imbalanced split of broadcast revenue is at the heart of McLennan’s threat to ditch RA’s Kiwi counterparts, with NZR raking in a reported A$91m from its broadcast partner Sky, the parent company of this publication.
That dwarfs the A$29m deal RA has in place with Channel Nine, which was signed after participating unions in Super Rugby shared broadcast revenue evenly in previous versions of the competition.
Fox Sports reports that McLennan has the backing of the RA board and Australia’s five Super Rugby Pacific franchises, but three ex-All Blacks have blasted his comments.
Speaking on The Breakdown, Sky’s flagship rugby show, former All Blacks wing Sir John Kirwan dismissed McLennan’s comments as “paper talk” and said RA leaving Super Rugby Pacific would be “the dumbest political decision that they could make”.
“Let’s be cold about it,” Kirwan said on Sky, which is partially owned by NZR, to fellow panellists and All Blacks greats Jeff Wilson and Mils Muliaina.
“My question back to both of you is do you think that they would suffer more by leaving, or would we suffer more?
“I want them in the competition. I think they’re outstanding. I love the Brumbies, I love the Reds, I love the Waratahs. I think it’s good. I think we need to keep growing together.
“However, my question back to both of you is who’s going to lose out on this? If they want to go, I think it’s the dumbest political decision that they could make. Okay, they’ve got the World Cup, but afterwards, who are they going to play?
“I think that we want them to stay, but why are you throwing that into the media? Because I don’t think, when push comes to shove, they would be able to improve their game.
“The NRL is thriving, it’s outstanding. Australian rules, they do a great job. They’re [RA] struggling already to get back where they need to get.”
Wilson, meanwhile, said he was “bitterly disappointed” by McLennan’s comments, which he described as a “power play” to attract more income ahead the 2025 British & Irish Lions tour of Australia and the two World Cups that RA will host in 2027 and 2029.
The former 60-test All Black was particularly upset about how such a decision by RA would impact Moana Pasifika and the Fijian Drua, Super Rugby’s first Pacific Island franchises that featured in the competition for the first time this year.
“They’ve got some big moments coming up, Rugby World Cups at home, they’re thinking and trying to plot their way towards that, but I think this is just a pure power play in terms of trying to negotiate more funds for Australia rugby,” Wilson said.
“I’m bitterly disappointed to hear him talking like that.
“When you commit to something for a couple of years, you commit to the Fijian Drua, Moana Pasifika sides, how do you think they feel right now, Hamish?
“You’ve opened a door for them and you’re thinking about, ‘We’re going to walk away from this now because it’s in the best interests of us, or we think it is’.”
Muliaina, the former All Blacks centurion and 2011 World Cup-winning fullback, echoed Wilson’s sentiments.
“I think it’s all talk. I’m disappointed, too, purely for that fact that we spoke about Moana and the Drua… where’s the funding for them these last few years?” Muliaina told The Breakdown.
“They’ve been crying out for here and there and there, they’re finally getting into a competition, and Hamish comes out and says, ‘Well, we’re going to leave them. All well and dandy that these last couple of years where we have them in there, but we’ll want to throw them back out again because we want to go on our own’.
“I think that it’s just all talk. I think he’s the only one that thinks it’s going to happen. Even the Australian players, I think that we need each other.
“This competition has been so great, and to hear stuff like that come out, and in the week of the final. That’s just crap.”
Wilson, the husband of former Silver Ferns star Adine Wilson, pointed to the decision by Netball Australia and Netball New Zealand to part ways and bring an end to the now-defunct ANZ Championship in 2016 as an example of the dangers that come with ending established trans-Tasman sporting competitions.
“I’ll make an example. Australian netball is in a hole for $4 million. They walked away from the trans-Tasman competition in New Zealand, and they’ve been worse off financially,” he said.
“That’s the biggest sport in Australia. There’s a danger if you walk away. To be fair, though, we also need them as well. We do need them, and I get where they’re coming from.
“I think you can see already there’s greater interest in this competition in Super Rugby than there was when we were separated and apart. We’ve created something. They’ve committed to it and now they’re talking about walking away. I’m really disappointed in this.”
Wilson added that the Australian teams have improved markedly in Super Rugby Pacific this season after a disastrous Super Rugby Trans-Tasman campaign in which they registered just two wins from 25 matches.
This year, the Brumbies, Waratahs, Rebels and Force all combined to produce a collective total of eight wins from 26 matches, with the Brumbies beating the Hurricanes to book a semi-final berth, where they came within one point beating the Blues.
According to Wilson, that bodes well for the future of the competition, which he hopes will remain intact beyond next year.
“To see the improvements they’ve made in the last 12 months, from when they couldn’t win a game in Super Rugby a few years ago against the New Zealand sides, they picked up a couple last year, and all of a sudden, this year we’ve seen – and I know the Brumbies proved it – they could compete and go well,” he said.
“You’ve started something, you’ve got to follow through with this, stick with what I think is a formula of the future, and then we’ll start talking about whether or not this world club competition… but, bottom line, we’ve started something, we’ve got to run the course.”
The reaction of Kirwan, Wilson and Muliaina come as Wallabies boss Dave Rennie voiced his concerns on the matter, saying he’d like to see Super Rugby Pacific continue and that “it’s important” that Australian teams face Kiwi opposition.
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This just proves that theres always a stat and a metric to use to justify your abilities and your success. Ben did it last week by creating an imaginary competition and now you did the same to counter his argument and espouse a new yardstick for success. Why not just use the current one and lets say the Boks have won 4 world cups making them the most successful world cup team. Outside of the world cup the All Blacks are the most successful team winning countless rugby championships and dominating the rankings with high win percentages. Over the last 4 years statistically the Irish are the best having the highest win rate and also having positive records against every tier 1 side. The most successful Northern team in the game has been England with a world cup title and the most six nations titles in history. The AB’s are the most dominant team in history with the highest win rate and 3 world cups. Lets not try to reinvent the wheel. Just be honest about the actual stats and what each team has been good at doing and that will be enough to define their level of success.
16 Go to commentsHow is 7’s played there? I’m surprised 10 or 11 man rugby hasn’t taken off. 7 just doesn’t fit the 15s dynamics (rules n field etc) but these other versions do.
7 Go to commentsPick Swinton at your peril A liability just like JWH from the Roosters Skelton ??? went missing at RWC
14 Go to commentsLike tennis, who have a ranking system, and I believe rugby too, just measure over each period preceding a world cup event who was the longest number one and that would be it. In tennis the number one player frequently is not the grand slam winner. I love and adore the All Blacks since the days of Ian Kirkpatrick when I was a kid in SA. And still do because they are the masters of running rugby and are gentleman on and off the field - in general. And in my opinion they have been the majority of the time the best rugby team in the world.
16 Go to commentsHaving overseas possessions in 2024 is absurd. These Frenchies should have to give the New Caledonians their freedom.
21 Go to commentsBell injured his foot didn’t he? Bring Tupou in he’ll deliver when it counts. Agree mostly but I would switch in the Reds number 8 Harry Wilson for Swinton and move Rob Valentini to 6 instead. Wilson is a clever player who reads the play, you can’t outmuscle the AB’s and Springboks, if you have any chance it’s by playing clever. Same goes for Paisami, he’s a little guy who doesn’t really trouble the likes of De Allende and Jordie Barrett. I’d rather play Carter Gordon at 12 and put Michael Lynagh’s boy at 10. That way you get a BMT type goalkicker at 10 and a playmaker at 12. Anyways, just my two cents as a Bok supporter.
14 Go to commentsThanks Brett, love your articles which are alway pertinent. It’s a difficult topic trying to have a panel adjudicating consistently penalties for red card issues. Many of the mitigating reasons raised are judged subjectively, hence the different outcomes. How to take away subjective opinions?
4 Go to commentsYes Sir! Surprising, just like Fraser would also have escaped sanction if he was a few inches lower, even if it was by accident that he missed! Has there really been talk about those sanctions or is this just sensational journalism? I stopped reading, so might have missed any notations.
4 Go to commentsAI is only as good as the information put in, the nuances of the sport, what you see out the corner of the eye, how you sum up in a split second the situation, yes the AI is a tool but will not help win games, more likely contribute to a loss, Rugby Players are not robots, all AI can do if offer a solution not the solution. AI will effect many sports, help train better golfers etc.
45 Go to commentsIt couldn’t have been Ryan Crotty. He wasn’t selected in either World Cup side - they chose Money Bill instead. And Money Bill only cared about himself, and that manager he had, not the team.
26 Go to commentsYawn 🥱 nobody would give a hoot about this new trophy. End of the day we just have to beat Ireland and NZ this year then they can finally shut up 🤐
16 Go to commentsTalking bout Ryan Crotty? Heard Crotty say in a interview once that SBW doesen't care about the team . He went on to say that whenever they lost a big game, SBW would be happy as if nothing happened, according to him someone who cares would look down.. Personally I think Crotty is in the wrong, not for feeling gutted but for expecting others 2 be like him… I have been a bad loser forever as it matters so much to me but good on you SBW for being able to see the bigger picture….
26 Go to commentsThis sounds like a WWE idea so Americans can also get excited about rugby, RUGBY NEEDS A INTERNATIONAL CALENDER .. The rugby Championship and Six Nations can be held at same time, top 3 of six nations and top 3 of Rugby championship (6 nations should include Georgia AND another qualifying country while Fiji, Japan and Samoa/Tonga qualifier should make out 6 Southern teams).. Scrap June internationals and year end tours. Have a Elite top six Cup and the Bottom 6 in a secondary comp….
16 Go to commentsThe rugby championship would be even stronger with Fiji in it… I know it doesen’t fit the long term plans of NZ or Aus but you are robbing a whole nation of being able to see their best players play for Fiji…. Every second player in NZ and AUS teams has Fijian surnames… shame on you!!! World rugby won’t step in either as France and England has now also joined in…. I guess where money is involved it will always be the poor countries missing out….
84 Go to commentsNo surprise there. How hard can it be to pick a ball off the ground and chuck it to a mate? 😂
2 Go to commentsSometimes people just like a moan mate!
4 Go to commentsexcellent idea ! rugby needs this 💪
16 Go to comments9 Brumbies! What a joke! The best performing team in Oz! Ditch Skelton for Swain or Neville. Ryan Lonergan ahead of McDermott any day! Best selection bolter is Toole … amazing player
14 Go to commentsI like this, but ultimately rugby already has enough trophies. Trying to make more games “consequential" might prove to be a fools errand, although this is a less bad idea than some others. Minor quibble with the title of the article; it isn’t very meaningful to say the boks are the unofficial world champions when it would be functionally impossible for the Raeburn trophy not to be held by the world champions. There’s a period of a few months every 4 years when there is no “unofficial” world champion, and the Raeburn trophy is held by the actual world champions.
16 Go to commentsIts a great idea but one that I dont think will have a lot of traction. It will depend on the prestige that they each hold but if you can do that it would be great. When Japan beat the Boks (my team) I was absolutely devestated but I wont deny the great game they played that day. We were outclassed and it was one of the best games of rugby I have seen. Using an idea like this you might just give the the underdog teams more of an opportunity to beat the big teams and I can absolutely see it being a brilliant display of rugby. They beat us because they planned for that game. It was a great moment for Japan. This way we can remove the 4 year wait and give teams something to aim for outside of World Cup years.
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