All Blacks claim No.1 and No.2 spot on ex-England skipper Dallagio's opensides GOAT list
Former England captain Lawrence Dallaglio has named a pair of All Blacks as his picks for the greatest opensides of all-time.
Writing in The Sunday Times, the No.8 who was no slouch himself, unsurprisingly named Richie McCaw as his greatest of all time at openside, with Michael Jones taking the number two spot.
McCaw was named World Rugby Men’s Player of the Year Award on three occasions (2006, 2009, 2010) and is widely accepted as the greatest openside to have played the game.
Dallaglio said that he couldn’t “see how anyone would not have McCaw as their best openside.”
“Just look at the figures: 148 test caps, with a win rate of almost 90 per cent – and 110 of those as captain.
“Probably the only player I know who was so dedicated to getting better that he turned down an invite to Prince William’s wedding in 2015.”
“Stuart Barnes, who also had McCaw in the No.1 spot suggested his leadership was also a huge part of his mystic. He wrote “hard to know where McCaw’s greatness as a captain ends and his ability as an openside begins.”
“There have been bigger, nastier and faster sevens but none has endured like the Crusader and none has possessed the capacity to dominate the breakdown like the All Black skipper.”
The more athletic Michael Jones, the All Blacks openside who dominated in the late 1980s and early 1990s and who many Kiwis still favour ahead of McCaw, is described as a “the Porsche of opensides, purring up on the shoulder of his three-quarters, cutting opposing tens in two, doing everything at high-speed precision’’, compared to McCaw’s ‘battered old roadster’.
Other players made both Barnes and Dallaglio’s list including current Welsh tyro Justin Tipuric. Wallaby great George Smith, England’s Peter Winterbottom, Ireland’s Fergus Slattery also feature in both the former internationals’ top ten lists in the position.
Recently retired back rows like Sam Warburton, Schalk Burger and Heinrich Brussow, are also named. There’s no room however for any Scottish, Italian, Japanese, Fijian, Samoan or Tongan’s on the list; with only Argentina getting a nod for the New World, with Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe taking Dallaglio’s 10th spot.
LAWRENCE DALLAGLIO: 1: Richie McCaw (NZ), 2: Michael Jones (NZ), 3: Peter Winterbottom (England), 4: George Smith (Australia), 5: Neil Back (England), 6: Fergus Slattery (Ireland), 7: Sam Warburton (Wales), 8: Schalk Burger (South Africa), 9: Justin Tipuric (Wales), 10: Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe (Argentina).
STUART BARNES: 1: Richie McCaw (NZ), 2: David Pocock (Australia), 3: Michael Jones, 4: Ruben Kruger (South Africa), 5: George Smith (Australia), 6: Fergus Slattery (Ireland), 7: Peter Winterbottom (England), 8: Heinrich Brüssow (South Africa), 9: Serge Betsen (France), 10: Justin Tipuric (Wales).
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It couldn’t have been Ryan Crotty. He wasn’t selected in either World Cup side - they chose Money Bill instead. And Money Bill only cared about himself, and that manager he had, not the team.
25 Go to commentsYawn 🥱 nobody would give a hoot about this new trophy. End of the day we just have to beat Ireland and NZ this year then they can finally shut up 🤐
13 Go to commentsTalking bout Ryan Crotty? Heard Crotty say in a interview once that SBW doesen't care about the team . He went on to say that whenever they lost a big game, SBW would be happy as if nothing happened, according to him someone who cares would look down.. Personally I think Crotty is in the wrong, not for feeling gutted but for expecting others 2 be like him… I have been a bad loser forever as it matters so much to me but good on you SBW for being able to see the bigger picture….
25 Go to commentsThis sounds like a WWE idea so Americans can also get excited about rugby, RUGBY NEEDS A INTERNATIONAL CALENDER .. The rugby Championship and Six Nations can be held at same time, top 3 of six nations and top 3 of Rugby championship (6 nations should include Georgia AND another qualifying country while Fiji, Japan and Samoa/Tonga qualifier should make out 6 Southern teams).. Scrap June internationals and year end tours. Have a Elite top six Cup and the Bottom 6 in a secondary comp….
13 Go to commentsThe rugby championship would be even stronger with Fiji in it… I know it doesen’t fit the long term plans of NZ or Aus but you are robbing a whole nation of being able to see their best players play for Fiji…. Every second player in NZ and AUS teams has Fijian surnames… shame on you!!! World rugby won’t step in either as France and England has now also joined in…. I guess where money is involved it will always be the poor countries missing out….
84 Go to commentsNo surprise there. How hard can it be to pick a ball off the ground and chuck it to a mate? 😂
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12 Go to commentsI like this, but ultimately rugby already has enough trophies. Trying to make more games “consequential" might prove to be a fools errand, although this is a less bad idea than some others. Minor quibble with the title of the article; it isn’t very meaningful to say the boks are the unofficial world champions when it would be functionally impossible for the Raeburn trophy not to be held by the world champions. There’s a period of a few months every 4 years when there is no “unofficial” world champion, and the Raeburn trophy is held by the actual world champions.
13 Go to commentsIts a great idea but one that I dont think will have a lot of traction. It will depend on the prestige that they each hold but if you can do that it would be great. When Japan beat the Boks (my team) I was absolutely devestated but I wont deny the great game they played that day. We were outclassed and it was one of the best games of rugby I have seen. Using an idea like this you might just give the the underdog teams more of an opportunity to beat the big teams and I can absolutely see it being a brilliant display of rugby. They beat us because they planned for that game. It was a great moment for Japan. This way we can remove the 4 year wait and give teams something to aim for outside of World Cup years.
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3 Go to commentsSuch a shame Roigard and Aumua picked up long term injuries, probably the two form players in the comp. Also, pretty sure Clarke Dermody isn’t their coach. Got it half right though.
3 Go to commentsOh the Aussie media, they never learn. At least Andrew Kellaway is like “Woah, yeah it’s great, but settle down there guys” having endured years of the Aussie media, fans, and often their players getting ahead of themselves only to fall flat on their faces. Have the “We'll win the Bledisloe for sure this year!” headlines started yet? It’s simple to see what’s going on. The Aussie teams are settled, they didn't lose any of their major players overseas. The Crusaders and Chiefs lost key experienced All Blacks, and Razor in the Crusaders case, and clearly neither are anywhere near as strong as last year (The Canes and Blues would probably be 3rd & 4th if they were). The Highlanders are annually average, even more so post-Aaron Smith and a big squad clean out. The two teams at the top? The two nz sides with largely the same settled roster as last year, except Ardie Savea for the Canes. They’ve both got far better coaches now too. If the Aussies are going to win the title, this is the year the kiwi sides will be weakest, so they better take their chance.
3 Go to commentsThe World Cup has to be the gold standard, line in the sand. 113 teams compete for what is the opportunity to make the pool stages, and then the knockout games for the trophy. The concept is sound. This must have been the rationale when the World Cup was created, surely? But I’m all for Looking forward and finding new ways for the SH to dominate the NH into the future. The autumn series needs a change up. Let’s start by having the NH teams come south every odd year for the Autumn/Spring series games?
13 Go to commentsWhat’ll happen when the AI models of the future go back in time and try to destroy the AI models of the past standing in their way of certain victory?
44 Go to commentsThanks, Nick. We (Seanny Maloney, Brett and I) just discussed Charlie as a potential Wallaby No 8, and wondered if he has truly realised how big he is in contact (and whether he can add 5 kg w/o slowing down). Your scouting report confirms our suspicions he has the materiel. No one knows if he has the mentality (as Johann van Graan said this week about CJ, Duane and Alfie B) to carry 10-15 times a game.
58 Go to commentsHe would be a great player for the Stormers, Dobbo should approach the guy.
3 Go to commentsGood article. A few years back when he was playing for the Cheetahs, he was a quiet standout for exactly the seasons stated here. I occasionally get to see his games in the UK, and he has become a more complete player and in many ways like an Irish player. His work ethic is so suitable to the Leinster game. I wonder if Rassie would have him listed somewhere.
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