What everyone doesn't get about beating the All Blacks
Every team wants to do it. At least, they think they want to. When they achieve it, the outpouring of emotion is amazing.
South Africa once again managed the feat for the first time since 2018. We were treated to heartwarming scenes that night as Springbok players cried on the Wellington pitch after a thrilling 36-34 win.
Again on Saturday, captain Siya Kolisi embracing his hooker Bongi Mbonambi at full time will be an image that will be remembered fondly. The Springboks climbed the mountain, conquered everyone’s Everest.
You would think this team had just won a World Cup final, or at least this year’s Rugby Championship. But no it was the end to a third-placed finish. A win over the All Blacks often brings on emotions so heavy they can not be hidden, it means so much.
What about the brilliant Pumas in Sydney 2020, finally earning a 25-15 historic win when no one gave them a chance? It was magnificent for the game, and for Argentinian rugby to earn such a result.
Who will forget the Irish players collapsing to the ground, hugging, fists clenched and arms cocked in celebration as Ireland beat the All Blacks for the second time in 2018? What about the first time in Chicago in 2016? Amazing scenes.
And what happened next for all those teams?
In 2016 Ireland turned up back home for a re-match and were beaten up by an All Blacks side labelled as thugs. The win in 2018 could be seen as the peak of Irish rugby as their next game to open the Six Nations ended with a humbling at the hands of England in 2019.
What about that 2019 England side and their famous semi-final win over the All Blacks? We don’t even need to say it.
Those 2020 Pumas? They drew with the Wallabies 15-all in their next match, who were also coming off a 24-22 win over the All Blacks. Neither of them could get a win after beating New Zealand. And the next week too, another draw. Fitting.
That brilliant 36-34 win in Wellington by the Springboks in 2018 was followed up by a home win over the Wallabies before a colossal meltdown in Pretoria as the All Blacks returned the favour 32-30 before going 2-2 in November.
In 2017, the British and Irish Lions side who ended a nine-year All Blacks home winning streak in Wellington didn’t lose their next game but didn’t win either. Following Romain Poite’s admission, they could be counted as lucky to escape a loss.
The 2015 and 2019 Wallabies sides managed to get wins over the All Blacks at home, only to return to Eden Park for their next games and get savaged.
What about the 2014 Springboks side who managed to finish the Rugby Championship on a massive high when Pat Lambie’s clutch long-range penalty sunk the All Blacks? They had a break, went on the end of year tour and lost to Ireland first up.
Beating the All Blacks is a poisoned chalice. It seems to suck the life out of you.
Teams put so much emphasis on trying to beat them that when they do, they don’t know what to do next. Maybe they cannot get up again after reaching such a high. And who can say these Springboks didn’t just put every last ounce of energy into the game they just played?
From the 14 wins over the men in black over the last 10 years, five of those victors won their next game. Just 35 per cent. Only two out of the 14 were able to avoid a loss or draw in the two games after their glorious feat.
How is that possible that you beat the most successful team over the last decade, and then just 35 per cent of those teams have been able to win their very next game after such a conquering?
It didn’t matter if they were playing next week, next month, the next year or if you were playing New Zealand again.
The five that did win had some lucky breaks as well.
The 2017 Wallabies got a win over Japan, a developing nation that was playing a one-off game. The 2012 England side who finished their year with their win had five months before opening 2013 with a win over Scotland.
The 2011 Wallabies who secured the Tri-Nations over the All Blacks got to open their World Cup campaign against Italy. They then played Ireland in their next pool game and lost.
The 2011 Springboks who ended that same Tri-Nations with a win over the All Blacks scraped to a 17-16 win over Wales in their opening pool game. Their next tier-one match was their 11-9 quarter-final defeat to the Wallabies.
Teams that beat the All Blacks don’t fare well afterward, plain and simple.
Just ask the 2007 and 1999 France sides who knocked New Zealand out of the World Cup. What did they end up with after their mammoth upsets? What about the 2003 Wallabies, after George Gregan proclaimed “four more years”?
Based on history, the only time you would want to beat the All Blacks is in a final. If you are unlucky enough to have to face them before then, good luck to you after climbing Everest.
Losing in the pool stages was a massive blessing for the 2019 Springboks, deflating expectations and handing them a golden path. It sounds like it helped the team, putting perspective back in place as to ‘what is pressure’ and allowed a mental reset.
History is littered with teams that beat NZ soon hitting major stumbling blocks, while for the All Blacks it is really these losses that fuel the long-term success.
The losses drain away any lingering complacency, any thought of comfort, content or satisfaction. It brings the focus back to processes, not outcomes, that the wins may have papered over.
It becomes an introspective process as they respond the right way to get back on the right path. You don’t usually hear them putting blame elsewhere. They will withdraw and internalise every detail of the loss, extract every bit of value that they can from the experience to shape change and evolve.
Losses for the All Blacks are the most valuable thing you could give them, which is why they seem to bounce back quickly, grow stronger and continue on. Until some unlucky souls manage to get one over them again.
Just remember, the Lion with the full belly doesn’t hunt. He does absolutely nothing. It was nice to see the Springboks reach the starvation stage but you better digest that meal quickly.
Good luck on the end-of-year tour.
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Thanks Brett, love your articles which are alway pertinent. It’s a difficult topic trying to have a panel adjudicating consistently penalties for red card issues. Many of the mitigating reasons raised are judged subjectively, hence the different outcomes. How to take away subjective opinions?
4 Go to commentsYes Sir! Surprising, just like Fraser would also have escaped sanction if he was a few inches lower, even if it was by accident that he missed! Has there really been talk about those sanctions or is this just sensational journalism? I stopped reading, so might have missed any notations.
4 Go to commentsAI is only as good as the information put in, the nuances of the sport, what you see out the corner of the eye, how you sum up in a split second the situation, yes the AI is a tool but will not help win games, more likely contribute to a loss, Rugby Players are not robots, all AI can do if offer a solution not the solution. AI will effect many sports, help train better golfers etc.
45 Go to commentsIt couldn’t have been Ryan Crotty. He wasn’t selected in either World Cup side - they chose Money Bill instead. And Money Bill only cared about himself, and that manager he had, not the team.
26 Go to commentsYawn 🥱 nobody would give a hoot about this new trophy. End of the day we just have to beat Ireland and NZ this year then they can finally shut up 🤐
13 Go to commentsTalking bout Ryan Crotty? Heard Crotty say in a interview once that SBW doesen't care about the team . He went on to say that whenever they lost a big game, SBW would be happy as if nothing happened, according to him someone who cares would look down.. Personally I think Crotty is in the wrong, not for feeling gutted but for expecting others 2 be like him… I have been a bad loser forever as it matters so much to me but good on you SBW for being able to see the bigger picture….
26 Go to commentsThis sounds like a WWE idea so Americans can also get excited about rugby, RUGBY NEEDS A INTERNATIONAL CALENDER .. The rugby Championship and Six Nations can be held at same time, top 3 of six nations and top 3 of Rugby championship (6 nations should include Georgia AND another qualifying country while Fiji, Japan and Samoa/Tonga qualifier should make out 6 Southern teams).. Scrap June internationals and year end tours. Have a Elite top six Cup and the Bottom 6 in a secondary comp….
13 Go to commentsThe rugby championship would be even stronger with Fiji in it… I know it doesen’t fit the long term plans of NZ or Aus but you are robbing a whole nation of being able to see their best players play for Fiji…. Every second player in NZ and AUS teams has Fijian surnames… shame on you!!! World rugby won’t step in either as France and England has now also joined in…. I guess where money is involved it will always be the poor countries missing out….
84 Go to commentsNo surprise there. How hard can it be to pick a ball off the ground and chuck it to a mate? 😂
2 Go to commentsSometimes people just like a moan mate!
4 Go to commentsexcellent idea ! rugby needs this 💪
13 Go to comments9 Brumbies! What a joke! The best performing team in Oz! Ditch Skelton for Swain or Neville. Ryan Lonergan ahead of McDermott any day! Best selection bolter is Toole … amazing player
12 Go to commentsI like this, but ultimately rugby already has enough trophies. Trying to make more games “consequential" might prove to be a fools errand, although this is a less bad idea than some others. Minor quibble with the title of the article; it isn’t very meaningful to say the boks are the unofficial world champions when it would be functionally impossible for the Raeburn trophy not to be held by the world champions. There’s a period of a few months every 4 years when there is no “unofficial” world champion, and the Raeburn trophy is held by the actual world champions.
13 Go to commentsIts a great idea but one that I dont think will have a lot of traction. It will depend on the prestige that they each hold but if you can do that it would be great. When Japan beat the Boks (my team) I was absolutely devestated but I wont deny the great game they played that day. We were outclassed and it was one of the best games of rugby I have seen. Using an idea like this you might just give the the underdog teams more of an opportunity to beat the big teams and I can absolutely see it being a brilliant display of rugby. They beat us because they planned for that game. It was a great moment for Japan. This way we can remove the 4 year wait and give teams something to aim for outside of World Cup years.
13 Go to commentsHi, Dave here. Happy to answer questions 🥰
13 Go to commentsDon’t think that headline is accurate. It’s great to see Aus doing better but I’m not sure they’ve shown much threat to the top of the table. They shouldn’t be inflating wins against the lousy Highlanders and Crusaders either.
3 Go to commentsSuch a shame Roigard and Aumua picked up long term injuries, probably the two form players in the comp. Also, pretty sure Clarke Dermody isn’t their coach. Got it half right though.
3 Go to commentsOh the Aussie media, they never learn. At least Andrew Kellaway is like “Woah, yeah it’s great, but settle down there guys” having endured years of the Aussie media, fans, and often their players getting ahead of themselves only to fall flat on their faces. Have the “We'll win the Bledisloe for sure this year!” headlines started yet? It’s simple to see what’s going on. The Aussie teams are settled, they didn't lose any of their major players overseas. The Crusaders and Chiefs lost key experienced All Blacks, and Razor in the Crusaders case, and clearly neither are anywhere near as strong as last year (The Canes and Blues would probably be 3rd & 4th if they were). The Highlanders are annually average, even more so post-Aaron Smith and a big squad clean out. The two teams at the top? The two nz sides with largely the same settled roster as last year, except Ardie Savea for the Canes. They’ve both got far better coaches now too. If the Aussies are going to win the title, this is the year the kiwi sides will be weakest, so they better take their chance.
3 Go to commentsThe World Cup has to be the gold standard, line in the sand. 113 teams compete for what is the opportunity to make the pool stages, and then the knockout games for the trophy. The concept is sound. This must have been the rationale when the World Cup was created, surely? But I’m all for Looking forward and finding new ways for the SH to dominate the NH into the future. The autumn series needs a change up. Let’s start by having the NH teams come south every odd year for the Autumn/Spring series games?
13 Go to commentsWhat’ll happen when the AI models of the future go back in time and try to destroy the AI models of the past standing in their way of certain victory?
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