Time to remove the kid gloves with Red Roses
In the build up to England’s match against Scotland in the 2019 football World Cup, striker Toni Duggan called on fans and journalists to criticise her team when they underperformed.
At the time, the current Everton forward was playing for Barcelona in Spain where scathing rebukes were evenly distributed between men and women.
“[In Spain] when we lose we’re slated, the same as the men,” she said. “That’s the level the game is at. In the past, we might have lost a game [with England] and you get fans messaging you saying, ‘Ah, don’t worry, you’ve done well.'”
According to Duggan, harsh treatment – in the right context – was a marker of esteem, which is why recent comments by Ugo Monye about England’s Red Roses side must either be viewed as blinkered bias, or as a sign of disrespect.
A caveat first. Monye is a gem and does more to promote women’s rugby than most people, man or woman. Which is why his comments should not be interpreted with any malice. But, to give Monye the respect that he personally deserves as an important voice in the game, he needs calling out. In doing so perhaps we might shift the discourse around the Red Roses.
Speaking in the wake of England’s 48-0 drubbing of Italy in Parma, Monye declared them to be the best sports team “in any gender on the planet”. With a scoreline like the one procured on Italy’s own patch and a run of five consecutive Six Nations titles along with four grand slams, it’s difficult to make a counterargument. That is until you cast your gaze up towards the sport’s most glittering prize.
In each of the last two World Cup finals – in New Zealand in 2022 and Ireland in 2017 – England’s Roses wilted at the last challenge and went home with silver medals. On both occasions, their conquerors were the New Zealand Black Ferns who were able to stand up to England’s power game while stacking up enough points through their fizzing interplay.
Does that sound like the best team in the world? Can you imagine if there was a men’s team that dominated their continental competition only to succumb at the peak of the mountain? You don’t have to. Until Richie McCaw spearheaded a dynasty the All Blacks were roundly mocked for their inability to add to their solitary World Cup win. Now the derision is directed at an Irish side seemingly incapable of winning a knockout match.
Of course that doesn’t mean that the Red Roses aren’t currently the best team on the planet. Sure, one game in the Championship – as well as a WXV 1 crown obtained last year – is a small sample size. And on the evidence of that one game in the Championship, England don’t deserve a whole lot of praise. In fact, if we really wanted to give them their dues, they’d be universally lambasted.
Against Italy, Sarah Beckett’s poor discipline and accuracy at the breakdown saw her rightly red-carded on 11 minutes. For most of the piece Lark Atkin-Davies couldn’t find her jumpers at the line-out. Zoe Harrison apparently left her kicking boots at home until deep in the second half. Emily Scarratt – arguably the best women’s player of all time – served up absolute dross at inside centre, regularly getting in the way of backline moves, scuffing her passes and over-cooking needless cross-field kicks that floated out on the full.
Were it not for the brilliance of Ellie Kildunne at full-back, or the injection of class supplied by Holly Aitchison, England might have boarded a flight home with an embarrassing loss to their name.
Except that’s not true. No side in Europe can touch England. Their players have been moulded in a fully professional ecosystem for far longer than any of their competitors. They play in by far the best league in the world. Their supporters are passionate, knowledgeable and growing. Young girls can look to them and imagine themselves embarking on a career as a professional rugby player.
Italy are a long way behind on all metrics. Which is why England’s disjointed display should be downgraded further.
This might come across as overly harsh. The side has a new coach in John Mitchell. He’s an experienced tactician and will enter a home World Cup in 2025 as the favourite to raise the trophy. But this is his first tilt with a women’s side. Mitchell will have to adjust the way he communicates. For all their similarities there are still a few nuanced differences between the men’s and women’s games and the Kiwi coach will learn on the job.
Then there’s the loss of Sarah Hunter. Not only did her dynamism in the loose provide England go-forward – though 22-year-old Sadia Kabeya may yet have an even higher ceiling – the absence of Hunter’s leadership must be having an impact.
Marlie Packer is a titan. She’s as inspirational as Winston Churchill and as destructive as a tsunami. But those are big shoes to fill. Maybe even Packer needs a bit of time to bed in.
Monye isn’t entirely wrong. England are potentially the best sports team in the world of any gender. But until they wrest the World Cup from New Zealand’s grasp, and until they put together a string of complete performances from start to finish, they don’t deserve the honour.
We need to remove the kid gloves and hold them to a higher standard. It’s what their brilliance deserves.
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To be fair it was nowhere bear the Leinster first team (for which, btw, Leinster copped nothing like the outrage that Jake White did for sending a rotated team to the UK). But it’s fun to watch the Stormers doing their thing. They are attracting big, diverse crowds of young fans, and deservedly so. Great to see.
1 Go to commentsIt might be legal but he’s sailing pretty close to the wind. Not a lot needs to go wrong for Finau to end up in the bin. Was it late? Not quite, but borderline. High? A couple of CM within the laws, no room for error with that one. Did he wrap the arms? There was a token effort to wrap one arm, the intent was clearly to hit with the shoulder. So yeah, it’s legal, just. But as we all know, a very slight change in the dynamics could easily have him seeing red. Hopefully not when it really matters.
4 Go to commentsCan we also show some love for Tane Edmed’s fantastic draw and pass? Put his body on the line and committed the defender before letting go of that pass. Flawless skill.
4 Go to commentsYou forget this is Rassie Erasmus who is still holding the Springbok keys. Even with Felix Jones orchestrating a really tight RWC SF last year. It still wasn't enough to get England past their particular Springbok Monkey in world cups. The reason is FJ was going off of what they did in 2019 not necessarily adapting to current Springboks. So yes, Australia can get passed England because let's be honest, England have a one track strategy, Springboks do not. Even with rush defense I wouldn't be surprised if Rassie continually tweaks it. Also bear in mind Rassie is happy to sacrifice a few mid year and inter World Cup matches to pin point how opposition plays and how to again tweak strategies to get his Springboks in peak performance for the next World Cup. As much as most teams like to win games in front of them and try to win everything, Rassie always makes sure to learn and train for the greatest showdown International Rugby has to offer. Tbh, most people remember World Cup wins and ignore intermediate losses as a result but will remember also WC losses, Ireland, even if they won games in the interim. So even if games are won against the Springboks, it's likely Rassie is just getting a feel for how opposition is moving and adapt accordingly…in time. For Rassie, a loss is never a loss because he uses it as a chance to learn and improve. Sometimes during a game, again like the England match in last year's Semi Final.
7 Go to commentsDanny don't care. He pretends to care but he don't. He says all this stuff to justify his reasoning but no one can claim that legitimately. He knew exactly what he was doing and wondered if his old team mate would overlook it, which he did. Ref has got to be sidelined or properly trained. It's one thing for refs to move up the ranks but if it was me I would require refs to either have played in different clubs or not at all having the temptation to bias in high stakes games like this. This has got to be stamped out. But then again World Rugby is so destroying the game of rugby in an attempt to be more “safe” and “concussion free”. What they are doing is making it more infuriating for the fans and more difficult for the refs to officiate evenly and consistently. It's fast become Australian Rules football. If guys don't want concussions, they should have played chess. Stop complaining you oldies of the game. When they played the game was vastly heavier hitting than it is now but of course they can't see that.
2 Go to commentsJa, why do Bulls get flack for not bringing their best but Leinster never bring their best and it goes “unnoticed”?
3 Go to commentsIt’ll be very interesting to see how Razor’s AB’s handle the new England rush D. It’s basically the Bok recipe they copied, so if England goes well then we know most likely the Boks will go well too. If England cops a hiding then we’ll have to study and adapt.
7 Go to commentsTypical trait of an australian is to moan. Goes well with there lack of humbleness as evident by the Reds bench on the weekend.
4 Go to commentsSBW’s bro’town commentary and lazy default to hyperbole should be ignored, a technical analyst he is not. Sotutu is a good player when games get goosey loosey, high skill set that fans of Zinzan recall with starry eyes. But you need power and mongrel at no8 in the Test arena and Sotutu gets found wanting there, much like Akira Ioane. No8’s like Zinzan and Ardie have bucketloads of mongrel and power and tenacity which allow the skill sets to flourish.
11 Go to commentsAn inside pass to attacker on the angle can make a drift defence look lead footed. Relies on fleet footed forward/s to get across from the breakdown. An argument for the smaller faster 7 perhaps?
7 Go to commentsSensational tackle. The reds one was late and rightly penalised. The other two were simultaneous with the pass. If nitpicking TMOs can’t find fault there clearly isn’t any.
4 Go to commentsBrumbies fully deserved their win on the back of their physicality and desire to control the ball. Xavier Numia, Asafo Aumua and Tyrel Lomax should be the ABs starting front row when we start our test schedule. They have “come of age” and have bested all they have faced as well as been dominant with ball in hand in making the gainline. With De Groot, Tamaiti Williams and Fletcher Newell backed up by Taukei'aho and Cody Taylor there's not an international front row that can trouble us. Can't wait to face the Boks over there, won't be no one point game this time.
7 Go to commentsKinda strange that he wasn’t with a premiership team or a higher level of rugby? Start playing late or something? With that kind of size and athleticism you’d think someone would have picked him up?
2 Go to commentsShows how much attitude matters. Last week the Brumbies got done, this week they dominated the tournament leaders, who were likely thinking they could cruise to victory.
7 Go to commentsA Turtle has more pace and leg drive than Owen Franks, so it’s a good thing he only had to run 90 metres for that try.
2 Go to commentsOh Tamati Tua was in the vastly over-rated Leon MacDonalds Blues system? Well, no wonder he was wasted, much like Emoni Narawa and Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens under MacDonald. now look at them. Good thing Tua isn’t eligible, the Aussies latch on to any player who isn’t tied down.
7 Go to commentsMark Telea is a lot of things, but a defensive juggernaut has never been one of them. There will be far bigger tests in that regard for the youngster.
11 Go to commentsLove and respect to Fiji but not a chance outside of 7s
4 Go to commentsGood summation Ned. Agree the Canes were out-muscled for once (except at the scrum!) by a focused Brumbies outfit. Tua deserves consideration for higher honors after the way he humbled Jordie and the Canes defense. Thankfully, his lack of eligibility for Oz keeps him from Joe’s plans. While I also agree the injuries affected the Canes performance, some players seemed to lack focus and intensity for this match. Perhaps after the Blues demolished the Brumbies, they thought it was going to be easy? A good reminder that any slip up in preparation can have a big affect on the result. Brumbies deserved that win.
7 Go to commentsKarl Dixon should never have been appointed this fixture, absolute disgrace, He’s not much of a referee anyway, didn't have the balls to send his mate care off
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