'Tyrel Lomax is an All Black, Asafo Aumua is an All Black, Ricky Riccitelli was in the All Blacks squad': Why fears over the Hurricanes' tight five are overblown
The Crusaders 33-16 win over the Hurricanes sealed a second straight loss for the club, after losing at home to the Blues in the first round.
Following the 0-2 start, the front five of the Hurricanes has come under the spotlight, criticised for not being up to scratch or reaching the quality of some of the other teams such as the Blues and the Crusaders.
Speaking on the Aotearoa Rugby Pod about the game, former Blues hooker James Parsons went to bat for the beleaguered Hurricanes’ pack, highlighting that the problems were rather technical rather than having inadequate personnel.
“I think it is unfair in that sense, I think the Crusaders were clinical and taking advantage of the ill-discipline,” he said.
“I don’t think it is a skillset thing, or a physical thing, or a ‘Hurricanes forward pack versus Crusaders forward pack’ thing.”
“I’ll give you an example, just after halftime it is the Hurricanes’ scrum feed and they get done for leaning in, I think Fraser Armstrong and it is a free kick. From that, it becomes Crusaders put in, and from that they go blind side, Richie Mo’unga, in the wet pins the corner.
“Puts the pressure straight back onto the Hurricanes. From there, the overthrow happens and Codie Taylor scores.
“So you can easily say the tight five is not ‘manning up’ or the tight five is not doing their job, well it’s not actually about the prowess or the nature of the beast, it’s actually just a technical thing.”
Parsons pointed out the accolades of the players in the Hurricanes tight five, with two All Blacks and a further squad member in the front row stocks who were on the field against the Crusaders.
“Tyrel Lomax is an All Black, Asafo Aumua is an All Black, Ricky Riccitelli was in the All Blacks squad, he travelled over.
“Fraser Armstrong has built a career, a long career in Mitre 10 Cup and Super Rugby. Xavier Numia has been exceptional, he’s another ‘Asafo Aumua’ explosive, great off-the-bench player.
“Scott Scrafton is there, James Blackwell and Isaia Walker-Leawere who has done great things at Hawkes Bay and Wellington over the years.
“They’ve got the tight five there, and their loosies speak for themselves. I don’t think it’s a cattle thing.”
“It’s just about winning those small moments that the Crusaders are so good at and ruthless at taking advantage of.
“Yellow cards. Go back to Tony Brown saying we didn’t get reward for the yellow cards (a week earlier). Well, there’s the Crusaders, they get a yellow card advantage and they score 21 points.
“That’s not a cattle thing, it’s the team’s ruthless nature. They expose you.”
Crusaders halfback Bryn Hall, who came on the field the final half an hour of the match, highlighted that the continuity of the squad for a number of years affords the Crusaders an advantage other young teams don’t have.
“When you’ve got the same guys that are on the same page, consistently for the full eighty minutes, you aren’t always going to get it right but nine times out of 10, if you know your own role and what you are doing, it leads to moments like that.”
Hall explained that the Crusaders group doesn’t even need to talk about decisions on the field, they usually are all thinking the same thing in the moments where quick thinking is required.
“We have been pretty fortunate the last four or five years we have had the same cattle. Those little game management moments where it is a quick look, or a quick understanding of how someone plays or what they are thinking.
“Most of the time, we are pretty lucky, we know exactly what we are thinking and we don’t even need to talk about it.”
“You talk about the Blues, who have kinda formed that same continuity, having the same players there for four or five years. It’s understanding being in those positions time and time again, you get confidence out of that.”
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Like tennis, who have a ranking system, and I believe rugby too, just measure over each period preceding a world cup event who was the longest number one and that would be it. In tennis the number one player frequently is not the grand slam winner. I love and adore the All Blacks since the days of Ian Kirkpatrick when I was a kid in SA. And still do because they are the masters of running rugby and are gentleman on and off the field - in general. And in my opinion they have been the majority of the time the best rugby team in the world.
14 Go to commentsHaving overseas possessions in 2024 is absurd. These Frenchies should have to give the New Caledonians their freedom.
21 Go to commentsBell injured his foot didn’t he? Bring Tupou in he’ll deliver when it counts. Agree mostly but I would switch in the Reds number 8 Harry Wilson for Swinton and move Rob Valentini to 6 instead. Wilson is a clever player who reads the play, you can’t outmuscle the AB’s and Springboks, if you have any chance it’s by playing clever. Same goes for Paisami, he’s a little guy who doesn’t really trouble the likes of De Allende and Jordie Barrett. I’d rather play Carter Gordon at 12 and put Michael Lynagh’s boy at 10. That way you get a BMT type goalkicker at 10 and a playmaker at 12. Anyways, just my two cents as a Bok supporter.
13 Go to commentsThanks Brett, love your articles which are alway pertinent. It’s a difficult topic trying to have a panel adjudicating consistently penalties for red card issues. Many of the mitigating reasons raised are judged subjectively, hence the different outcomes. How to take away subjective opinions?
4 Go to commentsYes Sir! Surprising, just like Fraser would also have escaped sanction if he was a few inches lower, even if it was by accident that he missed! Has there really been talk about those sanctions or is this just sensational journalism? I stopped reading, so might have missed any notations.
4 Go to commentsAI is only as good as the information put in, the nuances of the sport, what you see out the corner of the eye, how you sum up in a split second the situation, yes the AI is a tool but will not help win games, more likely contribute to a loss, Rugby Players are not robots, all AI can do if offer a solution not the solution. AI will effect many sports, help train better golfers etc.
45 Go to commentsIt couldn’t have been Ryan Crotty. He wasn’t selected in either World Cup side - they chose Money Bill instead. And Money Bill only cared about himself, and that manager he had, not the team.
26 Go to commentsYawn 🥱 nobody would give a hoot about this new trophy. End of the day we just have to beat Ireland and NZ this year then they can finally shut up 🤐
14 Go to commentsTalking bout Ryan Crotty? Heard Crotty say in a interview once that SBW doesen't care about the team . He went on to say that whenever they lost a big game, SBW would be happy as if nothing happened, according to him someone who cares would look down.. Personally I think Crotty is in the wrong, not for feeling gutted but for expecting others 2 be like him… I have been a bad loser forever as it matters so much to me but good on you SBW for being able to see the bigger picture….
26 Go to commentsThis sounds like a WWE idea so Americans can also get excited about rugby, RUGBY NEEDS A INTERNATIONAL CALENDER .. The rugby Championship and Six Nations can be held at same time, top 3 of six nations and top 3 of Rugby championship (6 nations should include Georgia AND another qualifying country while Fiji, Japan and Samoa/Tonga qualifier should make out 6 Southern teams).. Scrap June internationals and year end tours. Have a Elite top six Cup and the Bottom 6 in a secondary comp….
14 Go to commentsThe rugby championship would be even stronger with Fiji in it… I know it doesen’t fit the long term plans of NZ or Aus but you are robbing a whole nation of being able to see their best players play for Fiji…. Every second player in NZ and AUS teams has Fijian surnames… shame on you!!! World rugby won’t step in either as France and England has now also joined in…. I guess where money is involved it will always be the poor countries missing out….
84 Go to commentsNo surprise there. How hard can it be to pick a ball off the ground and chuck it to a mate? 😂
2 Go to commentsSometimes people just like a moan mate!
4 Go to commentsexcellent idea ! rugby needs this 💪
14 Go to comments9 Brumbies! What a joke! The best performing team in Oz! Ditch Skelton for Swain or Neville. Ryan Lonergan ahead of McDermott any day! Best selection bolter is Toole … amazing player
13 Go to commentsI like this, but ultimately rugby already has enough trophies. Trying to make more games “consequential" might prove to be a fools errand, although this is a less bad idea than some others. Minor quibble with the title of the article; it isn’t very meaningful to say the boks are the unofficial world champions when it would be functionally impossible for the Raeburn trophy not to be held by the world champions. There’s a period of a few months every 4 years when there is no “unofficial” world champion, and the Raeburn trophy is held by the actual world champions.
14 Go to commentsIts a great idea but one that I dont think will have a lot of traction. It will depend on the prestige that they each hold but if you can do that it would be great. When Japan beat the Boks (my team) I was absolutely devestated but I wont deny the great game they played that day. We were outclassed and it was one of the best games of rugby I have seen. Using an idea like this you might just give the the underdog teams more of an opportunity to beat the big teams and I can absolutely see it being a brilliant display of rugby. They beat us because they planned for that game. It was a great moment for Japan. This way we can remove the 4 year wait and give teams something to aim for outside of World Cup years.
14 Go to commentsHi, Dave here. Happy to answer questions 🥰
14 Go to commentsDon’t think that headline is accurate. It’s great to see Aus doing better but I’m not sure they’ve shown much threat to the top of the table. They shouldn’t be inflating wins against the lousy Highlanders and Crusaders either.
3 Go to commentsSuch a shame Roigard and Aumua picked up long term injuries, probably the two form players in the comp. Also, pretty sure Clarke Dermody isn’t their coach. Got it half right though.
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