'It's probably the most physical Test match I've ever experienced': 'Spirit of Rugby - Ep 3
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In episode three of Spirit of Rugby, Jim Hamilton talks with Simon Shaw, Rob Kearney, Tom Croft, Ian McGeechan and Stephen Jones about the 2009 series loss to South Africa. The series has been remembered as one of the most brutal in living memory, as well as one that inspired Herculean performances from some tourists.
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Simon Shaw
“There’s a sense of drama, there’s a sense of gladiatorial combat that you don’t get anywhere else in the world.
“All I’ve ever wanted to do is walk down the street in five, ten, fifteen years from now with my son or daughter at my side and someone point over and say ‘that’s Simon Shaw, he was XYZ in the Lions 2009,’ and give me a fist pump. The words came out of my mouth post match, I just wanted to be a part of it and win.
“I actually didn’t feel at any point when players were going off with arms in slings and all the rest of it, I actually didn’t think there was any way we could lose it still. You see your fellow soldiers going off and you think you might get downhearted by it but there was so much belief within that squad that I just didn’t think it necessarily affected us.
“Win, lose or draw, the first two Test matches were monumental Test matches.”
Rob Kearney
“The South Africans, they go hard. I think they almost try to go out of their way to intimidate you a little bit.
“You go on tour and everything is building up towards the Tests. The warmup games, whilst they’re important, everything is geared towards that first Test.
“We probably weren’t prepared for maybe the level of brutality that they were bringing. It was disappointing, but at the same time we knew that we hadn’t played particularly well and that the following week we were going to be an awful lot better.
“Sublime offload [from Jones for his try in the second Test], it was incredible. I wasn’t even expecting it. I had to juggle it with one hand.
“When you’re a kid and you go to bed at night time, you fantasise about these moments. Kicking the winning drop goal in a game or conversion or scoring a try for the Lions and I was definitely one of those kids growing up. For it to actually happen, you dream about these things your whole life.
“Simon Shaw might have something to say about that [being the best player on the pitch]. I think it was certainly up there [as one of his best games]. It has to have been. It was the biggest game of my career to date, it was the best that I’d ever played up until that. You always want to play your best games on the very big stage.
“It was awful, it really was. I’ve been playing this game for 15 years now and that ranks as number one worst loss and biggest defeat that I’ve ever had to take.
“Of course it was an opportunity missed. I think how close the second Test was, that could have swung either way. You would have loved to have seen a 1-1 going into that third Test.
“It was an incredible series for the game of rugby and the spirit of Lions rugby.”
Tom Croft
“It’s a hostile environment to be in and it was a missed opportunity but I don’t think anyone did themselves any injustice.”
Ian McGeechan
“I said to the players before the game, it’s not the jersey you put on, it’s the jersey you take off.
“It’s one of the best fullback performances I’ve ever seen in a Lions shirt,” McGeechan said of Kearney’s second Test performance.
“The Lions brings out different things in players when you get into that environment. And it does challenge you, and it changes you. Shawsy, what he put into it and what he did that afternoon was quite incredible.
“To me it’s probably the most physical Test match I think I’ve ever experienced. Unfortunately, we ended up with injuries as well. When both centres disappear, both props go in less than ten minutes in the second half.
“The players knew it wasn’t Ronan O’Gara’s fault we lost that game, it should have been well sorted before that.
“It’s still probably, in some respects, the most powerful dressing room I’ve walked back into because it was silent. You just saw the players and you knew what players give.”
Stephen Jones
“I remember the fact they got a bit of forward momentum in that game,” Jones said, looking back on the first Test.
“We missed some chances, I remember missing two off the tee- you always remember what you miss as a kicker. Six points gone there. As the game was going on, we were getting back into it and the momentum was with us.
“The best thing for me was Rob’s finish, I loved it. He still had a bit of work to do.
“To lose a game in the last minute like that and the manner, that was a bitter pill to swallow.
“Going back in the changing rooms after being in your own little world for five minutes, you want to then interact and talk to your teammates and discuss the game, debrief the game and I remember the changing room was pretty big, purely because so many guys had gone to hospital either to get operated on or checked on.”
Comments on RugbyPass
Good to hear he would like to play the game at the highest level, I hadn’t been to sure how much of a motivator that was before now. Sadly he’s probably chosen the rugby club to go to. Try not to worry about all the input about how you should play rugby Joey and just try to emulate what you do on the league field and have fun. You’ll limit your game too much (well not really because he’s a standard athlete like SBW and he’ll still have enough) if you’re trying to make sure you can recycle the ball back etc. On the other hard, you can totally just try and recycle by looking to offload any and everywhere if you’re going to ground 😋
1 Go to commentsThis just proves that theres always a stat and a metric to use to justify your abilities and your success. Ben did it last week by creating an imaginary competition and now you did the same to counter his argument and espouse a new yardstick for success. Why not just use the current one and lets say the Boks have won 4 world cups making them the most successful world cup team. Outside of the world cup the All Blacks are the most successful team winning countless rugby championships and dominating the rankings with high win percentages. Over the last 4 years statistically the Irish are the best having the highest win rate and also having positive records against every tier 1 side. The most successful Northern team in the game has been England with a world cup title and the most six nations titles in history. The AB’s are the most dominant team in history with the highest win rate and 3 world cups. Lets not try to reinvent the wheel. Just be honest about the actual stats and what each team has been good at doing and that will be enough to define their level of success.
16 Go to commentsHow is 7’s played there? I’m surprised 10 or 11 man rugby hasn’t taken off. 7 just doesn’t fit the 15s dynamics (rules n field etc) but these other versions do.
7 Go to commentsPick Swinton at your peril A liability just like JWH from the Roosters Skelton ??? went missing at RWC
14 Go to commentsLike tennis, who have a ranking system, and I believe rugby too, just measure over each period preceding a world cup event who was the longest number one and that would be it. In tennis the number one player frequently is not the grand slam winner. I love and adore the All Blacks since the days of Ian Kirkpatrick when I was a kid in SA. And still do because they are the masters of running rugby and are gentleman on and off the field - in general. And in my opinion they have been the majority of the time the best rugby team in the world.
16 Go to commentsHaving overseas possessions in 2024 is absurd. These Frenchies should have to give the New Caledonians their freedom.
21 Go to commentsBell injured his foot didn’t he? Bring Tupou in he’ll deliver when it counts. Agree mostly but I would switch in the Reds number 8 Harry Wilson for Swinton and move Rob Valentini to 6 instead. Wilson is a clever player who reads the play, you can’t outmuscle the AB’s and Springboks, if you have any chance it’s by playing clever. Same goes for Paisami, he’s a little guy who doesn’t really trouble the likes of De Allende and Jordie Barrett. I’d rather play Carter Gordon at 12 and put Michael Lynagh’s boy at 10. That way you get a BMT type goalkicker at 10 and a playmaker at 12. Anyways, just my two cents as a Bok supporter.
14 Go to commentsThanks Brett, love your articles which are alway pertinent. It’s a difficult topic trying to have a panel adjudicating consistently penalties for red card issues. Many of the mitigating reasons raised are judged subjectively, hence the different outcomes. How to take away subjective opinions?
4 Go to commentsYes Sir! Surprising, just like Fraser would also have escaped sanction if he was a few inches lower, even if it was by accident that he missed! Has there really been talk about those sanctions or is this just sensational journalism? I stopped reading, so might have missed any notations.
4 Go to commentsAI is only as good as the information put in, the nuances of the sport, what you see out the corner of the eye, how you sum up in a split second the situation, yes the AI is a tool but will not help win games, more likely contribute to a loss, Rugby Players are not robots, all AI can do if offer a solution not the solution. AI will effect many sports, help train better golfers etc.
45 Go to commentsIt couldn’t have been Ryan Crotty. He wasn’t selected in either World Cup side - they chose Money Bill instead. And Money Bill only cared about himself, and that manager he had, not the team.
26 Go to commentsYawn 🥱 nobody would give a hoot about this new trophy. End of the day we just have to beat Ireland and NZ this year then they can finally shut up 🤐
16 Go to commentsTalking bout Ryan Crotty? Heard Crotty say in a interview once that SBW doesen't care about the team . He went on to say that whenever they lost a big game, SBW would be happy as if nothing happened, according to him someone who cares would look down.. Personally I think Crotty is in the wrong, not for feeling gutted but for expecting others 2 be like him… I have been a bad loser forever as it matters so much to me but good on you SBW for being able to see the bigger picture….
26 Go to commentsThis sounds like a WWE idea so Americans can also get excited about rugby, RUGBY NEEDS A INTERNATIONAL CALENDER .. The rugby Championship and Six Nations can be held at same time, top 3 of six nations and top 3 of Rugby championship (6 nations should include Georgia AND another qualifying country while Fiji, Japan and Samoa/Tonga qualifier should make out 6 Southern teams).. Scrap June internationals and year end tours. Have a Elite top six Cup and the Bottom 6 in a secondary comp….
16 Go to commentsThe rugby championship would be even stronger with Fiji in it… I know it doesen’t fit the long term plans of NZ or Aus but you are robbing a whole nation of being able to see their best players play for Fiji…. Every second player in NZ and AUS teams has Fijian surnames… shame on you!!! World rugby won’t step in either as France and England has now also joined in…. I guess where money is involved it will always be the poor countries missing out….
84 Go to commentsNo surprise there. How hard can it be to pick a ball off the ground and chuck it to a mate? 😂
2 Go to commentsSometimes people just like a moan mate!
4 Go to commentsexcellent idea ! rugby needs this 💪
16 Go to comments9 Brumbies! What a joke! The best performing team in Oz! Ditch Skelton for Swain or Neville. Ryan Lonergan ahead of McDermott any day! Best selection bolter is Toole … amazing player
14 Go to commentsI like this, but ultimately rugby already has enough trophies. Trying to make more games “consequential" might prove to be a fools errand, although this is a less bad idea than some others. Minor quibble with the title of the article; it isn’t very meaningful to say the boks are the unofficial world champions when it would be functionally impossible for the Raeburn trophy not to be held by the world champions. There’s a period of a few months every 4 years when there is no “unofficial” world champion, and the Raeburn trophy is held by the actual world champions.
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