'Just make it about rugby': Why there continues to be a disconnect between players and fans
Following a tough start to the year, the All Blacks have faced plenty of criticism from pundits and fans alike.
New captain Sam Cane revealed last week that his teammates aren’t hugely fazed by the comments coming from outside their inner circle while halfback TJ Perenara has taken a slightly different approach, posting on social media that fans who are unwilling to stick with the All Blacks during tough times also shouldn’t bother supporting them when they’re doing well.
With social media such an ever-present part of modern society, it’s almost impossible for players to avoid criticism altogether. While that criticism isn’t always unfounded, there are times where it strays away from rugby commentary and becomes more personal in its nature.
Speaking on this week’s episode of the Aotearoa Rugby Pod, Super Rugby players Bryn Hall and James Parsons revealed they’ve faced their fair share of criticism and that it’s ostensibly become an inevitable part of life as a professional athlete.
“It’s part and parcel of us as rugby players,” said four-time Super Rugby champion Hall. “If we’re winning and that kind of stuff, you’re going to be getting the positive praise.”
“We’ve both been in teams that have gone through really challenging times,” acknowledged former All Black Parsons. “At the end of the day, if you get some results, the pressure will ease.
“There’s room for negative feedback. I suppose it’s the tone, and as long as it’s not personal, and it’s about errors you made as a rugby player and from a place of knowledge, then you can’t argue with it.
“Rugby players are really good at receiving feedback because our whole life is week-to-week and we get feedback every day. We finish Monday and we’ll get feedback clips that night … It’s not about the feedback, it’s just when it turns personal. We understand that the fans are going to get frustrated if we don’t perform but just make it about rugby.”
Both players agreed that one of the problems facing the game is that fans aren’t always able to criticise constructively because they don’t necessarily have as deep a rugby education as they’d like to believe.
Cane’s comments on The Breakdown last week reflected a similar sentiment, with the All Blacks captain suggesting that his side take no notice of some of the team’s more “brutal” fans.
“We’ve got some amazing fans but we’ve also got some pretty brutal ones,” he said. “With that you’ve just got to remind yourself hey, they may like to think they know a lot about the game of rugby, in reality they don’t really. They may know the game from what they see in the 80 minutes, but they don’t see the stuff that goes on behind the scenes.”
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Parsons has regularly featured on New Zealand radio shows to try and better educate the wider public about professional rugby and provide some insight on what many might not pick up simply from tuning into the sport every weekend.
“My main motivation was I could either complain that [the public] don’t know [about rugby], or I become part of the solution – and that’s what I did,” he said. “I’ve done that and we’ve had callers and I’ve tried to educate them as best I can.
“I’ve had some great callers of late just trying to explain the contestable kick and why we just ‘give the ball back’, and letting them understand that it’s about saving energy and putting skillsets under pressure but also not playing too much rugby between the two 40 [metre lines]. And they leave going ‘Oh ok, I can see that now.’
“It was also frustrating from a player’s point of view due to you getting a lot of criticism and there wasn’t that understanding, hence the reason that I said I wanted to be part of the solution rather than just sitting back and complaining. It’s something that I’ve really enjoyed, connecting with the fans, and I think I get better feedback from my radio and podcasts than I do as a player.”
Speaking on the differing responses from Cane and Perenara – with Cane’s appearing on more traditional media while Perenara took to his own personal social account – both Hall and Parsons acknowledged that social media can be both a blessing a curse.
“Everyone’s still learning and understanding [how to best utilise social media],” Parsons said. “I think Ardie [Savea] touched on it, the importance of the mental side of the game and dealing with these pressures and having conversations to learn how to deal with it and be better from it.
“There’s certainly a place for a player’s point of view, putting things out there but also letting stuff in. You want to have that connection with fans. That’s how you grow your game and you grow the relationship for fans with the club, the jersey but with you as an individual. I think we’ll get better with it over time but there’s definitely growth from all areas.”
“I think that’s where rugby’s going,” said Hall. “Think about athletes being able to talk about how they feel and everything like that … With TJ’s personality, it’s not a bad thing. It’s just his personality. Obviously, I think the messaging as a team won’t be like that but individuals … you’re allowed to have an opinion.”
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Parsons, meanwhile, praised coach Ian Foster’s comments following Cane’s appearance on The Breakdown.
“They’re taking their stances as individuals but as a team … your mindset will filter from the top down
“I’ll just use what Fozzie came out and said on Newstalk ZB. He said ‘It’s just part of the process. We love our fans, we understand that there’s going to be negative feedback’. He appreciates the negative feedback, he wants us to be passionate fans, he wants us to be talking about the game, and he said ‘It’s just on us to have a better understanding that it’s part of the process’.
“As the leader of the All Blacks, he just knocked it on the head for me. I just think we move forward through it, there’s individuals and how they motivate themselves to get the performance and at the end of the day, whatever happens and whatever’s said, you’re going to be judged by your performance.”
The All Blacks can improve their win-record for the season to 50 percent if they can beat the Pumas in Sydney this weekend in their final match of the year. A victory would also put them in pole position to take out the Tri-Nations.
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Je suis sûr que Farrell est impatient de jouer avec Lopez et Machenaud et d’être entraîné par Collazo… 🤭
1 Go to commentsAn on field red (aka a full red) in SRP must surely carry a bigger suspension than a red card given by the bunker as that carries a 20 minute team punishment. Had Damon Murphy abdicated his responsibility as a ref and issued both Drua players a yellow, which would have been upgraded to a 20 minute red by the bunker, that would have killed Australia and New Zealand’s push for the 20 minute red to be trialled globally from July this year.
11 Go to commentsEver so often you all post a Danny Care story that isn’t the announcement that he has finally re-signed for one more, victory tour season at Quins and I’m just like, “well you fooled me again!” My absolute favorite player ever, we need to make his final year at the Stoop (and Twickers) official already. I know he supposedly snubbed France but I won’t feel better until he signs.
1 Go to commentslate hit what late hit it wasn’t at all late and can clearly see he was committed before the tackle
1 Go to commentsChristian Lio -Willies 2 try perfomance was a standout. As was captain Scott Barrett. Up front was where the boys won it.They are a great team and players. Fantastic Crusades , you can keep going.
1 Go to commentsI don't know how the locals feel about that? I guess if you call yourselves the Worcester Wasps that might be appease. But really we need more teams in the Premiership in my view so they are not padding it out as they are at the moment. It might curtail so many players going abroad as well
5 Go to commentsNZ 😭😭😭is certainly rivaling England for best whingers cup!😭😭😭 !!!
25 Go to commentsYup. New Zealand won 3 out of 10 world cups played. SA 4 out of 8 attempts 30 Vs 50 per cent.🤔🤔
25 Go to commentsShould've done this years ago. Change Saturday kick off times to around 11am. Up and off and back home before 3pm, limit travel time too. Allows players to actually do something else with their Saturday that's family oriented or being rugby fans they could ‘watch’ pro rugby. Increases crowds etc. How can anyone that enjoys grassroots and pro rugby have to choose between the two on Saturdays?
9 Go to commentsI bet he inspired those supporters just as much.
1 Go to commentsBen Smith Springboks living rent free in his head 😊😂
67 Go to commentsGood to hear he would like to play the game at the highest level, I hadn’t been to sure how much of a motivator that was before now. Sadly he’s probably chosen the rugby club to go to. Try not to worry about all the input about how you should play rugby Joey and just try to emulate what you do on the league field and have fun. You’ll limit your game too much (well not really because he’s a standard athlete like SBW and he’ll still have enough) if you’re trying to make sure you can recycle the ball back etc. On the other hard, you can totally just try and recycle by looking to offload any and everywhere if you’re going to ground 😋
1 Go to commentsThis just proves that theres always a stat and a metric to use to justify your abilities and your success. Ben did it last week by creating an imaginary competition and now you did the same to counter his argument and espouse a new yardstick for success. Why not just use the current one and lets say the Boks have won 4 world cups making them the most successful world cup team. Outside of the world cup the All Blacks are the most successful team winning countless rugby championships and dominating the rankings with high win percentages. Over the last 4 years statistically the Irish are the best having the highest win rate and also having positive records against every tier 1 side. The most successful Northern team in the game has been England with a world cup title and the most six nations titles in history. The AB’s are the most dominant team in history with the highest win rate and 3 world cups. Lets not try to reinvent the wheel. Just be honest about the actual stats and what each team has been good at doing and that will be enough to define their level of success.
25 Go to commentsHow is 7’s played there? I’m surprised 10 or 11 man rugby hasn’t taken off. 7 just doesn’t fit the 15s dynamics (rules n field etc) but these other versions do.
9 Go to commentsPick Swinton at your peril A liability just like JWH from the Roosters Skelton ??? went missing at RWC
14 Go to commentsLike tennis, who have a ranking system, and I believe rugby too, just measure over each period preceding a world cup event who was the longest number one and that would be it. In tennis the number one player frequently is not the grand slam winner. I love and adore the All Blacks since the days of Ian Kirkpatrick when I was a kid in SA. And still do because they are the masters of running rugby and are gentleman on and off the field - in general. And in my opinion they have been the majority of the time the best rugby team in the world.
25 Go to commentsHaving overseas possessions in 2024 is absurd. These Frenchies should have to give the New Caledonians their freedom.
21 Go to commentsBell injured his foot didn’t he? Bring Tupou in he’ll deliver when it counts. Agree mostly but I would switch in the Reds number 8 Harry Wilson for Swinton and move Rob Valentini to 6 instead. Wilson is a clever player who reads the play, you can’t outmuscle the AB’s and Springboks, if you have any chance it’s by playing clever. Same goes for Paisami, he’s a little guy who doesn’t really trouble the likes of De Allende and Jordie Barrett. I’d rather play Carter Gordon at 12 and put Michael Lynagh’s boy at 10. That way you get a BMT type goalkicker at 10 and a playmaker at 12. Anyways, just my two cents as a Bok supporter.
14 Go to commentsThanks Brett, love your articles which are alway pertinent. It’s a difficult topic trying to have a panel adjudicating consistently penalties for red card issues. Many of the mitigating reasons raised are judged subjectively, hence the different outcomes. How to take away subjective opinions?
11 Go to commentsYes Sir! Surprising, just like Fraser would also have escaped sanction if he was a few inches lower, even if it was by accident that he missed! Has there really been talk about those sanctions or is this just sensational journalism? I stopped reading, so might have missed any notations.
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