'It just adds depth': excluded All Black still has big future
After a Steinlager series that saw three wins out of three against Tonga and Fiji, All Blacks head coach Ian Foster this week announced his 36-man squad ahead of The Rugby Championship later this year.
Foster’s squad featured few alterations, with the return of Joe Moody, Ofa Tuungafasi and TJ Perenara representing the major talking points. With over 150 test caps between the three players, Foster has called upon experienced heads in anticipation of a grueling seven week competition, which will see the Springboks return to technically defend their 2019 title.
With injuries ruling Tuungafasi and Moody out of selection for the recent three-test series in July, Foster will no doubt be pleased to have them back in his side, despite the fact that Moody is expected to only be back to full fitness around halfway through the tournament.
Commenting on the return of the two front rowers, former Blues hooker James Parsons, speaking on this week’s episode of the Aotearoa Rugby Pod, didn’t find their inclusion surprising at all.
“I think it’s pretty predictable,” said Parsons. “You knew that they had to come back into the squad and George Bower is still there as cover.”
Moody’s return however means that there is no space in the squad for 22-year-old Ethan de Groot, who came on to make his All Blacks debut against Fiji in Dunedin.
“Ethan de Groot goes back to the Southland Stags, which I don’t think is a reflection on [his] performances,” said Parsons. “But I think Joe Moody is probably one of the best looseheads in the world, if not equal best in the world and Ofa Tuungafasi has been one of the form tightheads. [Tuungafasi’s inclusion] gives the All Blacks better balance in the squad, because he can play both sides.”
The development of De Groot and indeed Bower for that matter, will certainly have provided Foster with the confidence that his options in the propping department, nearly halfway through this World Cup cycle, are growing.
Perenara’s return meanwhile follows a similar trend, bringing with him 69 test caps, a Super Rugby title and a World Cup winners medal.
Crusaders halfback Bryn Hall, also appearing on the ARP this week, identified some of the features that the 29-year-old would add on his All Blacks return.
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“I think there was always a plan to bring Perenara back in,” said Hall. “TJ adds something different. Aaron Smith and Brad Weber are great at being able to play at speed, TJ can do that but he also brings another aspect, with his defensive work and with how physical he is around the breakdown. He’s also a leader in that squad as well.”
Parsons echoed many of Hall’s thoughts. “Bringing a 70-test match player into the environment, to drive and live by the standards that you know TJ lives by and [bring] his competitive standards, you’re never going to leave that out of a squad,” he said.
At 29, Perenara is the youngest of the three halfbacks included in Foster’s current Rugby Championship squad. Alongside him, Chiefs captain Brad Weber and Aaron Smith, set to become the first All Blacks halfback to reach a century of test appearances.
In similar circumstances to de Groot however, Perenara’s return sees Blues halfback Finlay Christie leave the squad having made two appearances for the All Blacks this July. Hall, however, believed that time spent with the squad would nonetheless aid in the 25-year-old’s continued development.
“I think Finlay has played really well so you could say that he’s a little bit unlucky due to his form, but again this just adds great depth,” said Hall. “With [Christie] you’ve brought in a guy that is young and has played really well in the last two test matches so he’s had that taste. He gets to go back to Tasman and really hone his craft to be able to go back into that environment and play some good footy. If there are injuries, he’s ready to come back in.”
Whilst Christie has featured prominently with Tasman in the side’s last two consecutive Mitre 10 Cup titles, the rise of another star at provincial level in Folau Fakatava demonstrates the burgeoning depth the All Blacks may potentially call on in future at halfback.
With Perenara, Smith and Weber all set to be over 30 come 2023, Foster will surely have an eye on who might be able to fill a spot or two among the halfbacks in future. Aside from Christie and the highly touted Fakatava, who might yet be delayed an opportunity in the black jersey due to eligibility issues, Crusaders halfback Mitchell Drummond already has an All Blacks cap to his name. Alongside him the prodigious talent of Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi has appeared three times at test level, whilst Hall himself could potentially represent an option for Foster.
At the very least, Hall was excited by the ever-growing competition for an All Blacks place.
“I think that’s the greatest thing about it,” said Hall. “We’ve got three guys [at halfback] that are a little bit older, but then you’ve got guys like Christie and Folau Fakatava, who was injured and probably would have been in that [July] squad [if not for that injury] – it just adds depth in that position.”
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Thanks Brett, love your articles which are alway pertinent. It’s a difficult topic trying to have a panel adjudicating consistently penalties for red card issues. Many of the mitigating reasons raised are judged subjectively, hence the different outcomes. How to take away subjective opinions?
4 Go to commentsYes Sir! Surprising, just like Fraser would also have escaped sanction if he was a few inches lower, even if it was by accident that he missed! Has there really been talk about those sanctions or is this just sensational journalism? I stopped reading, so might have missed any notations.
4 Go to commentsAI is only as good as the information put in, the nuances of the sport, what you see out the corner of the eye, how you sum up in a split second the situation, yes the AI is a tool but will not help win games, more likely contribute to a loss, Rugby Players are not robots, all AI can do if offer a solution not the solution. AI will effect many sports, help train better golfers etc.
45 Go to commentsIt couldn’t have been Ryan Crotty. He wasn’t selected in either World Cup side - they chose Money Bill instead. And Money Bill only cared about himself, and that manager he had, not the team.
25 Go to commentsYawn 🥱 nobody would give a hoot about this new trophy. End of the day we just have to beat Ireland and NZ this year then they can finally shut up 🤐
13 Go to commentsTalking bout Ryan Crotty? Heard Crotty say in a interview once that SBW doesen't care about the team . He went on to say that whenever they lost a big game, SBW would be happy as if nothing happened, according to him someone who cares would look down.. Personally I think Crotty is in the wrong, not for feeling gutted but for expecting others 2 be like him… I have been a bad loser forever as it matters so much to me but good on you SBW for being able to see the bigger picture….
25 Go to commentsThis sounds like a WWE idea so Americans can also get excited about rugby, RUGBY NEEDS A INTERNATIONAL CALENDER .. The rugby Championship and Six Nations can be held at same time, top 3 of six nations and top 3 of Rugby championship (6 nations should include Georgia AND another qualifying country while Fiji, Japan and Samoa/Tonga qualifier should make out 6 Southern teams).. Scrap June internationals and year end tours. Have a Elite top six Cup and the Bottom 6 in a secondary comp….
13 Go to commentsThe rugby championship would be even stronger with Fiji in it… I know it doesen’t fit the long term plans of NZ or Aus but you are robbing a whole nation of being able to see their best players play for Fiji…. Every second player in NZ and AUS teams has Fijian surnames… shame on you!!! World rugby won’t step in either as France and England has now also joined in…. I guess where money is involved it will always be the poor countries missing out….
84 Go to commentsNo surprise there. How hard can it be to pick a ball off the ground and chuck it to a mate? 😂
2 Go to commentsSometimes people just like a moan mate!
4 Go to commentsexcellent idea ! rugby needs this 💪
13 Go to comments9 Brumbies! What a joke! The best performing team in Oz! Ditch Skelton for Swain or Neville. Ryan Lonergan ahead of McDermott any day! Best selection bolter is Toole … amazing player
12 Go to commentsI like this, but ultimately rugby already has enough trophies. Trying to make more games “consequential" might prove to be a fools errand, although this is a less bad idea than some others. Minor quibble with the title of the article; it isn’t very meaningful to say the boks are the unofficial world champions when it would be functionally impossible for the Raeburn trophy not to be held by the world champions. There’s a period of a few months every 4 years when there is no “unofficial” world champion, and the Raeburn trophy is held by the actual world champions.
13 Go to commentsIts a great idea but one that I dont think will have a lot of traction. It will depend on the prestige that they each hold but if you can do that it would be great. When Japan beat the Boks (my team) I was absolutely devestated but I wont deny the great game they played that day. We were outclassed and it was one of the best games of rugby I have seen. Using an idea like this you might just give the the underdog teams more of an opportunity to beat the big teams and I can absolutely see it being a brilliant display of rugby. They beat us because they planned for that game. It was a great moment for Japan. This way we can remove the 4 year wait and give teams something to aim for outside of World Cup years.
13 Go to commentsHi, Dave here. Happy to answer questions 🥰
13 Go to commentsDon’t think that headline is accurate. It’s great to see Aus doing better but I’m not sure they’ve shown much threat to the top of the table. They shouldn’t be inflating wins against the lousy Highlanders and Crusaders either.
3 Go to commentsSuch a shame Roigard and Aumua picked up long term injuries, probably the two form players in the comp. Also, pretty sure Clarke Dermody isn’t their coach. Got it half right though.
3 Go to commentsOh the Aussie media, they never learn. At least Andrew Kellaway is like “Woah, yeah it’s great, but settle down there guys” having endured years of the Aussie media, fans, and often their players getting ahead of themselves only to fall flat on their faces. Have the “We'll win the Bledisloe for sure this year!” headlines started yet? It’s simple to see what’s going on. The Aussie teams are settled, they didn't lose any of their major players overseas. The Crusaders and Chiefs lost key experienced All Blacks, and Razor in the Crusaders case, and clearly neither are anywhere near as strong as last year (The Canes and Blues would probably be 3rd & 4th if they were). The Highlanders are annually average, even more so post-Aaron Smith and a big squad clean out. The two teams at the top? The two nz sides with largely the same settled roster as last year, except Ardie Savea for the Canes. They’ve both got far better coaches now too. If the Aussies are going to win the title, this is the year the kiwi sides will be weakest, so they better take their chance.
3 Go to commentsThe World Cup has to be the gold standard, line in the sand. 113 teams compete for what is the opportunity to make the pool stages, and then the knockout games for the trophy. The concept is sound. This must have been the rationale when the World Cup was created, surely? But I’m all for Looking forward and finding new ways for the SH to dominate the NH into the future. The autumn series needs a change up. Let’s start by having the NH teams come south every odd year for the Autumn/Spring series games?
13 Go to commentsWhat’ll happen when the AI models of the future go back in time and try to destroy the AI models of the past standing in their way of certain victory?
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