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'At the break down it's about being a nuisance, being more like Packer!'
Alex Matthews is a player who sets extremely high standards for herself. The World Cup winner has long been a part of the England set up in sevens and 15s.
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Being a success in both formats of the game, it’s only through gritty determination, after having her England sevens contract terminated due to the pandemic, that the flanker has managed to work her way back into the highly competitive number six shirt for the Red Roses.
Not satisfied with standing still, the 28-year-old recently announced a move to Gloucester-Hartpury from Worcester Warriors and will join up with the squad after the World Cup. Matthews explained why she decided to switch clubs, including the want to be tested.
“I actually hadn’t planned to leave Worcester,” said the back row. “During the Six Nations all the girls were chatting around their clubs and what they’re doing which got me thinking maybe I should just have a little look around. I was at Richmond all the way through my early days and I don’t really move around clubs so I thought I best have a little look.
“I bought a house in Gloucester during lockdown which is only around half an hour away from Hartpury University and I struggled with the longer journeys back and forth to Worcester, so that was a major factor in my decision. I was spending two hours in the car with my hips getting tight and counteracting the physio I’d be getting, so now I’m getting older, the decision is better for my body.
“You do feel that loyalty though, which did play on my mind. Worcester’s growth over the past the few seasons has been incredible and I didn’t want me leaving to be a reflection on them.
“I still want to be pushed and challenged and I want people to question me and pull me up on things and tell me when it’s not good enough. I want to keep my standards high and sometimes you need that boost from other people.
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“Lynnie (Sean Lynn, Gloucester-Hartpury Head Coach) is so good with people, I went to Hartpury College and knew a bit about him anyway, but chatting to the staff and what they said impressed me. They reinforced how it’s not just about you as a player but you as a person and were asking how can we help your life outside of rugby, which I really like and is a big value of mine.”
Matthews was the youngest member of the England squad when they won the World Cup back in 2014, and remembers her 21st Birthday being spent in camp with a big England shirt Birthday cake and Marlie Packer gifting her a champagne bottle filled with Celebration chocolates which she ‘had to share’.
Matthews played in that World Cup final victory and her conscientious and kind-hearted personality, comes across when asked about her best memories from the win and the tournament in general.
“I wasn’t really part of the training squad leading up to the tournament because I had my first big hip operation in the lead up, so I only just made selection. I think I got back fit two weeks before selection.
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“The best part was just being around the older girls. I was naïve going into the final, I didn’t have the experience or history of how many finals we had come so close and lost to New Zealand. But it was a relief to be honest. I remember seeing how much it meant to players like Sophie Hemming and Nolli (Danielle Waterman).”
One player who also played in that final and is currently on world-topping form is Matthew’s good friend and back row partner Packer.
England Rugby recently put out a video about the pair being polar opposites but a world class combination both on and off the pitch.
Matthews laughs, “we’ve been rooming together since before the 2014 World Cup and in sevens we roomed together as well.
“We’ve been close all along but we’re completely the opposite. But it’s funny because any new coaches that come in are so surprised we room together, but we just work so well. She’s loud and energetic and I’m reserved and enjoy my quiet time but we’ve got a good balance.
“Marlie is just a ball of energy, I don’t know how she does it. On the fitness shuttle tests, she won’t do as well but stick a ball in front of her and she just won’t stop. She’s great to play with.”
Unique ? @MarliePacker https://t.co/5IqEhMPaPo
— Alex Matthews (@AlexMatthews03) May 6, 2022
Both flankers had a strong Six Nations but Matthews admits it took her a while to settle back into the England 15s daily routine from sevens and how the transition affected her performance.
“It was hard. Last season I don’t feel I performed at all up until the Six Nations and for me if I feel comfortable and valued then I’ll play better so I think it takes me a while to get back into the environment.
“Last season I got frustrated with myself. I was coming off the bench in the Autumns for England and I feel it when I’m not playing the game I want to play. I felt I had a point to prove.
“Back in Autumns Mids (Simmon Middleton, England Head Coach) was like ‘what’s wrong with being on the bench?’ and it changed my perspective as obviously the game has changed and the bench is so important. Bench players can win you the game and it’s going to be to be crucial coming up to the World Cup. So yeah, I now have a different perspective about that!”
The dream 50th cap ????????@AlexMatthews03 | #RedRoses pic.twitter.com/VCTBTh63xU
— England Rugby (@EnglandRugby) April 30, 2022
It’s curious as an outsider looking at a player like Matthews and asking where they could still improve, but as any good player will tell you, there’s always room for improvement.
“For me, coming from sevens, the breakdown is completely different from the 15s game, and I need to keep working and learning around it. In sevens as soon as you have your hands on the ball it’s a turnover but in 15s you’ve got to stick on it a bit longer.
“Also, for me it’s about getting used to having so many bodies around that breakdown area, I see them and I think let’s get out and fill the field in defence but actually, it’s about slowing the breakdown down and being a nuisance. It’s about being a bit more like Packer!”
With the World Cup in October, Matthews has the rare privilege of being able to draw on both positive and negative experiences from two World Cup finals. The most recent being the 2017 loss to New Zealand in Belfast.
“The 2017 result was upsetting initially and I spent a good few weeks feeling so disappointed. Thinking things like what could I have done better and just overplaying it in my head but at the end of the day, we did all we could in the lead up to it and we just didn’t react on the pitch.
“It was our own fault for not adapting to what they were doing and didn’t really have any answers. That World Cup definitely changed my mindset going into games and I try not to put too much pressure on myself. It’s only rugby at the end of the day.”
Matthews speaks confidently about England’s approach leading up to the World Cup so far and the positive team environment.
“I’m loving being with England at the moment. I have a love-hate relationship with pre-season, but I love training and if I’m ever having a down day, one of the team will pull you out of it. Maud (Muir) and Connie (Powell) make me laugh- it’s their odd throw-away comments!”
And Matthews is well aware of the necessity to harness the team spirit and stick together as a squad when on opposition turf this Autumn.
“It’ll be interesting potentially playing New Zealand in their back yard. Back in 2017 we played them before one of the British and Irish Lions games and walking down the street we had people rolling down their windows, beeping and shouting at us and you want to play in that atmosphere. It’s no different to playing away in France, they heckle and boo and we love it.
“As far as the Black Ferns are concerned, you can’t underestimate them and the work they’ll be doing behind closed doors now will be the ridiculous. Them and France will throw things at us, but we will be prepared for it all.”
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Wow, that’s incredible. Great for rugby.
1 Go to commentsYou probably read that parling is going to coach the wallaby lineout but if not before now you have.
13 Go to commentsIf someone like Leo Cullen was in O’Gara’s place I don’t hear Boo-ing. It’s not just that La Rochelle has hurt Leinster and O’Gara is their Irish boss. It’s the needle that he brings and the pantomime activity before the game around pretending that Munster were supporting LaRochelle just because O’Gara is from Cork. That’s dividing Irish provinces just to get an advantage for his French Team. He can F*ck right off with that. BOOOOO! (but not while someone is lying injured)
1 Go to commentsDid the highlanders party too hard before the game? They were the pits.
1 Go to commentsWhat a player! Not long until he’s in the England side, surely?
1 Go to commentsHe seems to have the same aura as Marcus Smith - by which I mean he’s consistently judged as if he’s several years younger than he actually is. Mngomezulu has played 24 times for the Stormers. When Pollard was his age he had played 24 times for South Africa! He has more time to develop, but he has also had time to do some developing already, and he hasn’t demonstrated nearly as much talent in that time as one would expect. If he is a generational talent, then it must be a pretty poor generation.
4 Go to commentsThe greatest Springbok coach of all time is entirely on the money. Rassie and Jacques have given the south african public a great few years, but the success of the springbok selection policy will need to be judged in light of what comes next. The poor condition that the provincial system is currently in doesn’t bode well for the next few years of international rugby, and the insane 2026 schedule that the Boks have lined up could also really harm both provincial and international consistency.
16 Go to commentsJake White is a brilliant coach and a master in the press. This is another masterclass in media relations and PR but its also a very narrow view with arguments that dont always hold water. White wants his team to win, he wants the best players in SA and wants his team competitive. You however have to face up to the reality of a poor exchange rate and big clubs with big budgets. SA Rugby cant compete and unless it can find more money SA players will keep leaving regardless of Springbok eligibility and this happened in 2015 - 2017. Also rugby is not cricket. Cricket has 3 formats and T20 cricket is where the money is at. When it comes to club vs country the IPL is king but that wont happen because the international calendar does not clash with the club calendar in rugby. So the argument about rugby going down the same path as cricket is really a non-starter
16 Go to commentsNZ rugby seem not to have learnt anything from professional rugby. Super rugby was dying and SA left before they died with the competition. SA rugby did a u turn on their approach to international players playing overseas and such players are now selected for Bok teams. As much as each country would love to retain their players playing in local competitions, this is the way the world is evolving my friends. Move with it or stay 20 years behind the times. One more thing. NZ rugby hierarchy think they are the big cheese. Take a more humble approach guys. You do not seem to have your players best interests at heart.
3 Go to commentsBeaches? In Cardiff? Where?
1 Go to commentsHe is right , the Crusaders will be a threat. Scott Barrett, ( particularly), Fergus Burke , Codie Taylor, ( from sabbatical) etc due back soon for the Crusaders. There are others like Zach Gallagher too. People can right the Crusaders off, Top 8 , here we come !!
1 Go to commentsWe will always struggle for money to match the other sides but the least the WRU can do is invest properly in Welsh rugby. Too much has been squandered on vanity projects like the hotel and roof walk amongst others which will never see a massive return. Hanging the 4 pro sides out to dry over the last decade is now coming back to bite the WRU financially as well as on the pitch. You reap what you sow.
1 Go to commentsWhat do you get if you cross a doctor with a fish? A plastic sturgeon
14 Go to commentsWhat happened to feleti Kaitu’u? Hasnt played in a while right?
1 Go to commentsGregor I just can’t agree with you. You are trying to find something that just isn’t there. Jordie Barrett has signed until 2028. By the end of that he would have spent probably 11-12 years on Super Rugby and you say he can’t possibly have one season playing somewhere else. It is absurd. What about this scenario, the NZR play hard ball and he decides to leave and play overseas. How would that affect the competition. There seems to be an agenda by certain journalists to push certain agendas and don’t like it when it’s not to their liking. I fully support the NZR on this. Gregor needs to get a life.
3 Go to commentsHope he stays as believe he can do a great job.
1 Go to commentsMake what step up? Manie has a World Cup winner’s medal around his neck and changed the way the Springboks can play. He doesn’t have anything to prove to anyone. The win record of the Boks with him in the team is tremendous. Sacha can be wonderful and I hope he has a very succesful Bok career, but comparing him to Manie in terms of the next Bok flyhalf is very strange. Manie is the incumbent (not the next) and doing pretty incredibly.
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1 Go to commentsSabbaticals have helped keep NZ’s very best talent in the country on long term deals - this fact has been left out of this article. Much like the articles calling to allow overseas players to be selected, yet can only name one player currently not signed to NZR who would be selected for the ABs. And in the entire history of NZ players leaving to play overseas, literally only 4 or 5 have left in their prime as current ABs. (Piatau, Evans, Hayman, Mo’unga,?) Yes Carter got an injury while playing in France 16 years ago, but he also got a tournament ending injury at the 2011 World Cup while taking mid-week practice kicks at goal. Maybe Jordie gets a season-ending injury while playing in Ireland, maybe he gets one next week against the Brumbies. NZR have many shortcomings, but keeping the very best players in the country and/or available for ABs selection is not one of them. Likewise for workload management - players missing 2 games out of 14 is hardly a big deal in the grand scheme of things. Again let’s use some facts - did it stop the Crusaders winning SR so many times consecutively when during any given week they would be missing 2 of their best players? The whole idea of the sabbatical is to reward your best players who are willing to sign very long term deals with some time to do whatever they want. They are not handed out willy-nilly, and at nowhere near the levels that would somehow devalue Super Rugby. In this particular example JB is locked in with NZR for what will probably (hopefully) be the best years of his career, hard to imagine him not sticking around for a couple more after for a Lions tour and one more world cup. He has the potential to become the most capped AB of all time. A much better outcome than him leaving NZ for a minimum of 3 years at the age of 27, unlikely to ever play for the ABs again, which would be the likely alternative.
3 Go to commentsJake White talks more sense than anything I've read in the last 5 years. Hope someone's listening.
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