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A combined Springboks-All Blacks' 23 based on the Rugby World Cup

Will Jordan of New Zealand is tackled by Pieter-Steph Du Toit of South Africa during the Rugby World Cup France 2023 match between New Zealand and South Africa at Stade de France on October 28, 2023 in Paris, France. (Photo by Gaspafotos/MB Media/Getty Images)

The debate following the controversial Rugby World Cup final between the Springboks and the All Blacks has continued unabated since the full-time whistle.

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Who would make a combined XV of both countries? Some big guns have missed the cut in this squad.

15. Will Jordan (All Blacks) – The leading try scorer at the World Cup didn’t play a single game at fullback but many pundits suggest that Jordan is wasted on the wing. There is less time, space, and chance to involve World Rugby’s most gifted attacking player. Neither Beauden Barrett or Damian Willemse set the world on fire.

There is a criticism that Jordan’s kicking game is insufficient but watching Barrett kick ad nauseum, and with less effectiveness than Ben Smith and Israel Dagg in the past, Jordan at fullback is an exciting alternative and of course, would be allowed to grow a kicking game if given a chance. There are other kicking options in this team too.

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14. Kurt-Lee Arendse (Springboks) – With 13 tries in 16 Tests, Lee-Arendse is the Springboks most lethal finisher. Adept under the high ball, solid on defense and an occasional kicker he’s made an epic start to what looks like a long career.

13. Jessie Kriel (Springboks) – Had Lukhanyo Am been available Kriel might not have featured as regularly. All Blacks opposite Reiko Ioane might be flashier, but Kriel in tandem with. Damian de Allende is a pair not prone to error and very hard to breach. Kriel is rock solid on defense, carries powerfully and employs a grubber kick to good effect.

12. Damian de Allende (Springboks) – With 78 Tests under his belt de Allende has become a real mainstay of the Springboks midfield. Played a brilliant quarter final scoring a vital try. In the final nothing was getting past de Allende. His hard and direct running is ideal in a game of congested defense. In 33 runs at the World Cup, he beat 17 defenders and made 144 meters.

11. Mark Telea (All Blacks) – The World Rugby Breakthrough Player of the Year was perhaps the only player who consistently looked like breaching the Springboks defense in the final. Busy, bustling, and a scorer of tries, Telea possibly overachieved in 2023. The charge down of a French conversion by Cheslin Kolbe was perhaps the most important moment of the World Cup, but his yellow card in the final could have been the most untimely too.

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10. Richie Mo’unga (All Blacks) – Two missed kicks were costly for the All Blacks in the final but otherwise Mo’unga enjoyed a fine tournament. Set up a classic try for Will Jordan which went a long way towards winning the Irish quarter final. His break and pass to put Aaron Smith over for a try in the final might have created a very different narrative in the aftermath, but incompetent officiating ruled that out.

9. Faf de Klerk (Springboks) – The master of controlling the pace of a game with his varied, probing, and demanding kicks. Can swing swiftly onto the attack and hurt the opposition with swift distribution and calculated snipes. A crucial ankle tap on Dalton Papalii late in the final prevented potential strife for the Springboks.

8. Ardie Savea (All Blacks) – The World Rugby Player of the Year is an obvious selection. Ranked in the top 20 at the Rugby World Cup for carries, tackles, and turnovers. At his best Savea is a force of nature.

7. Pieter-Steph du Toit (Springboks) – When you google search Pieter-Steph du Toit one of the first questions that now emerges is how many tackles he made in the Rugby World Cup final. His performance was legendary with 14 in each half and nine alone on the All Blacks main midfield threat Jordie Barrett. Steph du Toit was immense in the narrow quarter-final victory against France and like Savea is simply a force of nature.

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6. Siya Kolisi (Springboks) – Undoubtedly the most charismatic skipper in international rugby Kolisi is an inspirational and intimidating presence at the same time. Was lucky to avoid a red card in the final but it seemed preordained that Kolisi would join Riche McCaw as the only other captain to win the World Cup twice. Which Hollywood actor would be best suited to capture his box office story on the big screen?

5. Sam Whitelock (All Blacks) – Wasn’t a regular starter in the World Cup but it’s hard to look past a record 153 Tests and 125 wins. Whitelock won the turnover which secured the All Blacks victory against Ireland and his contributions were typically strong in the final. His memorable steal in the 2015 Rugby World Cup final against the Springboks is part of All Blacks folklore.

4. Eben Etzebeth (Springboks) – The prospect of Sam Whitelock partnering with Etzebeth is enough to make one salivate. The 119-Test veteran was a beast at the World Cup. His sheer muscle won the quarter-final against France, his solo try a display of raw grit. In the final, he levelled Richie Mo’unga early and that set the tone for a typically disruptive performance. The industrious and brutal Franco Mostert is unlucky to miss selection.

3. Tyrell Lomax (All Blacks) – Injury threatened to ruin his tournament but he recovered strongly and wasn’t bettered by any opponent at the tournament. Has experienced enormous growth since the arrival of Jason Ryan as All Blacks forward coach.

2. Dane Coles (All Blacks) – The fire remains as strong as ever with Coles renouncing his retirement shortly after the World Cup for a stint in Japan. Preformed with accuracy, aggression and consistency in 2023 and his experience and ability to get under the opposition’s skin would have been very useful in the World Cup final.

1. Steven Kitshoff Springboks) – Won an early penalty in the World Cup final and went about his work all tournament with brutal efficiency. When it comes to the ‘dark arts’ Kitshoff is a legend. Ethan De Groot did battle for 66 minutes in the decider, an honourable effort after a red card earlier in the tournament threatened to derail his campaign.

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16. Codie Taylor (All Blacks) – Waywardness with his lineout throwing was costly early in the final. Generally, 2023 was very good for Taylor. His set-piece was largely accurate and his work around the field is always top-notch.

17. Ox Nché (Springboks) – Destroyed England in the semi-final lifting South Africa to an improbable victory. If ever there was an individual that was a metaphor for the ‘Bomb Squad’ it’s beast Nché who famously quipped, “Salads don’t win scrums.”

18. Tamiati Williams (All Blacks) – The heaviest All Black of all time covers both sides of the scrum and it was perhaps surprising he didn’t see more time in the World Cup. Had the Springboks much-vaunted scrum wilting towards full-time in the final.

19. Scott Barrett (All Blacks) – His red card against the Springboks before the World Cup was hardly endearing but his whole body of work in 2023 has been outstanding, so much so that he broke up the old firm of Sam Whitelock and Brodie Retalick.

20. RG Snyman (Springboks) – Simply a monster at 2.06m and 131kg. His try against England won the semi-final and his bullying presence is ideal late in a match.

21. Kwagga Smith (Springboks) – The best impact player in world rugby. Covers all three positions in the back row and has the speed and skill to

22. Jordie Barrett (All Blacks) – Tried his darndest to puncture the Springboks defense in the final but couldn’t make a telling break. For the time being, however, Barrett has firmly secured the All Blacks 12 jersey and his versatility and goal-kicking are an undeniable asset.

23. Aaron Smith (All Blacks) – Perhaps the most extraordinary feat in Smith’s career is that he started 114 of his 125 Tests, achieving 100 wins. He was rarely challenged for his starting spot and at this World Cup flourished behind an All Blacks pack that after a sluggish start found its groove.

 

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CG 526 days ago

Dumb exercise by the saffers

It’s not going to happen because we really don’t like you

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razor 553 days ago

The two best teams in the world. Far out. The only sad thing is how wound up the saffas are getting at this. Why not just imagine how lethal a 23 we could have if we played the British lions in a 3 game series. Would be some awesome football to watch.

My 23 (based on fully fit teams) would be:

1. De groot

2. Marx

3. Malherbe

4. Eben

5. Scott Barrett

6. Kolisi

7. PSDT

8. Ardie

9. Smith

10. Mounga

11. Rieko

12. Jordie

13. Kriel

14. KLA

15. Jordan

16. Taylor

17. Kitsoff

18. Tamaiti

19. RJ

20. Whitelock

21. Kwagga

22. Faf

23. Willemse

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NR 554 days ago

Pretty fair

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JW 554 days ago

I’d like to see a Ben Smith article that ranks his top 23.

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Nickers 554 days ago

This team would be an interesting experiment if for no other reason than to see how De Allende and Kriel actually play rugby, rather than just how well they chase kicks and tackle.

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Red and White Dynamight 553 days ago

can they catch a pass ? no evidence yet.

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DA 554 days ago

your comment is just so dumb. If you were not so sour you would have known that neither kick, chase and tackle. You are so dumb

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JG 555 days ago

I don’t agree with every selection, but then again, everyone will never agree on a list like this. That being said, this team will be an unstoppable force. Throw Rassie in there too.. he will know who to select for different opponents. What would we call a team made up of Springboks and All Blacks? The Supreme Team?

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Red and White Dynamight 555 days ago

Kriel and de Allende, what a joke. Who knows whether theyre decent centres if we never see them with the ball. Marx over Coles, obviously. Faf doesnt get close to other Bok 9’s let alone good enough to clean Smith’s boots. Jordan out of position, therefore thats a zero. Kitshoff a handy player but outside scrumming he’s nowhere, De Groot clearly offers more. How does Arense get the nod over Kolbe, the little cheater is a genius.

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DA 554 days ago

I can see AB bull;shit creeping in again. Faf beat your AB side because of how he plays. Your try was forward and you know that, therefore no smith try. Smith is not good enough to clean Fafs……. de Grood is no where otherwise your scrum would have stood up in the last 3 matches and, you know what????? It did not!!!

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JWH 555 days ago

Everything you said is good apart for Jordan out of position. He is a full back who just happens to be alright at wing. But I agree with everything else

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AklBlues 555 days ago

Did any of those Bok backline players even run the ball?

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DA 554 days ago

go and look at the tries idiot!!!!!

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Red and White Dynamight 555 days ago

You cant run with it if you havent been passed it.

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Flankly 555 days ago

“His memorable steal in the 2015 Rugby World Cup final against the Springboks is part of All Blacks folklore.”


I am guessing that most AB folklore is based on things that actually happened?

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Ace 555 days ago

You picked a 6:2 bench! 🤣

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Bob Marler 555 days ago

Bollocks article.


“didn’t play a single game at fullback” - Will Jordan at fullback.


1 and 2 also nonsense.

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Head high tackle 556 days ago

Silly article. Jordan has 1 test at FB and yet here he is. If Mounga could pass Jordan would have 9 WC tries AS A WINGER. Mounga was terrible. Go check his wc stats. Probably rated top ten. Smith at 23???? yeah right. Not sure you watch much rugby Adam.

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frandinand 555 days ago

Poor old Forward pass. His anti Crusader bias is so obvious even to an Aussie like me. Mounga made the RWC team of the tournament !!! I am positive even if you watch rugby Forward Pass you know nothing about it.

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MJ 556 days ago

More nz manipulation going on in this article. Siya didn't make head contact. In fact Ardie had whiplash and as a result headbutted Siya. Both nz tries were forward. Whether you call it in the 1st or 4th phase the correct decision was made. Lastly, watch carefully, there were only two phases leading to Aaron's try because no rucks were formed when the tackles were made.

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DA 554 days ago

correct but morons don’t know the rules

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Pecos 556 days ago

Woah, what a team!!!

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007 556 days ago

Who is ‘Tamiati’ Williams? Could he be related to TaMAIti Williams?

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Ninjin 556 days ago

This team will never work. You can’t play Faf with Richie or Richie with De Allende. Great back three that will never see the ball. Rather just play the Springbok pack with Nz hooker and Nz backline with Kurt-lee and move Jordan to 15. And Beaden at 10.

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AklBlues 555 days ago

Agree. Who wants to see a kicking match. Might aswell play soccer. Bok forward pack and AB backline

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Chris 556 days ago

Agree. I would pick Kolbe and Mark Talea on the wings. Would make space for Pollard at 15. Need that iceman for the big kicks. 🦵

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AN 556 days ago

DeKlerk ahead of Smith to start? Wow…

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DA 554 days ago

AB’s could not get their game going because of FAF

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