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'Until you have lived it and got burned, it’s very hard to react'

Gloucester boss George Skivington (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

Easter time and the living is suddenly much easier than it was last winter for Gloucester boss George Skivington. Having been in charge since the summer of 2020, you’d think he would have seen and experienced it all at Kingsholm and that nothing would escape his attention at this stage.

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There’s the rub, though: as a director of rugby, you are always learning and some invaluably tough lessons were endured in recent months by the 41-year-old who is four seasons into his first head-of-club Gallagher Premiership job.

Gloucester damagingly lost nine on the bounce in the league between the end of October and the start of January and Skivington has now openly admitted that the buck stopped with him, claiming he didn’t react to the warning signs quickly enough.

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The Cherry and Whites had started the season with a bang, winning their opening two matches, but that encouraging beginning was followed by a rapid downturn in results.

Saracens, Sale, Bath, Exeter, Leicester and Bristol all had their way with Gloucester, but it was only when driving home embarrassed from Ashton Gate on December 2 after a 26-51 hammering that Skivington finally had the epiphany that resulted in him grabbing hold of the situation.

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A Challenge Cup break followed and while the losing streak returned when the Premiership resumed over the holiday period with Gloucester losing three more league matches, their performances considerably improved. Winning again was only a matter of time.

They eventually gave the Sharks a bloody nose on January 28 and having won the Premiership Rugby Cup final versus Leicester – the club’s first silverware since the 2015 European Challenge Cup – they tamed the Tigers for a second time last weekend back in the league. Next up are the Bears, who come calling at Kingsholm on Saturday in round 14.

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Adrift in ninth place with just five rounds of matches left, the upturn has come too late for Gloucester to realistically fight their way back into the play-offs as Exeter, who were the fourth and last semi-final positioned team heading into this weekend, were on 40 points, 14 points better off than Skivington and co.

What the gap highlights is that the director of rugby left his squad down by insisting they kept playing the same way during November despite losing key style-setting players to injury. He didn’t tinker with the approach soon enough and the cost was heavy, something he now regrets.

Asked by RugbyPass to reflect on the winter crisis that engulfed Gloucester and hemorrhaged their play-off chances, he said: “After Bristol away, I got in the car and was embarrassed that day – as was everyone else – and I spent the evening just going over and over.

“One of those moments when you just sit back and go, ‘I have missed this, I’ve missed this, I’ve missed this’ and it all just starts rolling in and then you start asking yourself, ‘How have you missed it?

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“Then you get the coaches in and say, ‘Listen lads, these are the things we have to go down the route of. In the future when this happens we all need to be on board or flagging this, this and this.’

“It’s good for us as a group, to be honest. We probably needed that hiding to really hammer home where we were going wrong but from my point of view, I would love to have identified that after Sale away four weeks before.

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“Now whether or not that is realistic, it will be realistic for me going forward. But it was very much me driving home and sitting at home after that last Bristol game where I realised we had really strayed and look, we came in on Monday and set out for the team what we were going to do.

“From that week on we have been pretty good. We haven’t won them all but I haven’t had a game since then where I have been angry or actually we were off-piste.

“It was very much these are our points, these are what we are going after and that is what the boys have done. Loads and loads of learnings but in terms of that block, which is what is really cost us in the Premiership, that six-week block, I would be pretty confident I would correct that a lot quicker if it happened again.”

Gloucester, for example, were without Zach Mercer, their ball-carrying No8 monster, on that awful day at Ashton Gate and his inclusion is one of eight changes to the starting XV that will take on Bristol in the Kingsholm rematch this Saturday.

The hope is that the real Cherry and Whites will be seen, not the off-colour version that gave up seven tries in the previous derby. “I’ve learned a lot,” continued Skivington, who had a mini spring break away from Gloucester to head coach England A for their February 25 win at Leicester over a Portuguese XV.

“I now understand what this role really entails. I was obviously relatively young and inexperienced when I took the role but this year, although we have had to suffer a pretty tough period, it has probably given me the most clarity I have ever had on what this role is.

“If you took this snapshot from a playing point of view, I would like to have reacted quicker when we lost; it wasn’t necessarily the amount of bodies but the personnel we didn’t have for a period of time.

“We tried to keep playing the same game plan that had been going well for us with the bodies on the pitch and ultimately when we talk about these young lads, when you end up forced into certain selections and using your squad in a slightly different way, you have to adapt the way you play sometimes.

“If you have got Zach Mercer on the field you know you are going to get some linebreaks. If you end up losing Zach, Ruan (Ackermann), Val (Rapava-Ruskin), Adam Hastings, all these players, you have got to accept no game plan in the world is going to break down a defence as we had against us last Friday night (at Leicester).

“For me, that is very clear. I was probably four games too slow reacting to that in all honesty. You talk to a lot of mentors, people who have been through it, essentially you can take all the advice in the world but until you have lived it and got burned, it’s very hard to react.

“There is a huge amount of lessons I have learned this year. That would be the glaring one from the point of view of those six games in the Prem’ that we lost back-to-back, week-to-week. But I actually feel very good.

“I feel like it’s given me some real clarity around the roles, given me some real clarity about some bits and pieces of the management where you can’t afford to let too much go or sometimes you trust people with something a little too much and ultimately it’s on your head if that goes wrong and you have got to be on top of that.

“Some tough lessons but it gives you some real clarity on the role, some real clarity if you are going to be at the right end of the Premiership what you are actually going to have to do. You have got to learn and you have got to be humble enough to accept your mistakes and certainly, by the end of the season, I have got real time to reflect.

“The bits and pieces I feel very confident about now, I’m sure there will be lots more. I feel in a good space in understanding what it is to be a director of rugby.”

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fl 1 hour ago
Ex-Wallaby laughs off claims Bath are amongst the best in the world

I ultimately don’t care who the best club team in the world is, so yeah, lets agree to disagree on that.


I would appreciate clarity on a couple of things though:

Where did I contradict myself?

Saying “Trophies matter. They matter a lot. But so does winning games. So does making finals.” is entirely compatible with ranking a team as the best - over an extended period - when they have won more games and made more finals than other comparable teams. It would be contradictory for me to say “Trophies matter. They matter a lot. But so does winning games. So does making finals.” and then completely ignore Leinster record of winning games and making finals.


“You can get frustrated and say I am not reading what you write, but when you quote me, then your first line is to say thats true (what I wrote), but by the end of the paragraph have stated something different, thats where you contradict yourself.”

What you said (that I think trophies matter) is true, in that I said “Trophies matter. They matter a lot. But so does winning games. So does making finals.”. Do you understand that Leinster won more games and made more finals than any other (URC-based) team did under the period under consideration?


“Pointless comparison on Blackburn and Tottenham to this discussion as no-one includes them on a list of the best club. I would say that Blackburns title season was better than anything Tottenham have done in the Premier League. My reference to the league was that the team who finished second over two seasons are not better than the two other teams who did win the league each time. One of the best - of course, but not the best, which is relevant to my point here about Leinster, not comparing teams who won 30 years ago against a team that never won.”

I really don’t understand why you would think that this is irrelevant. You seem to be saying that winning trophies is the only thing that matters when assessing who is the best, but doesn’t matter at all when assessing who is 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc.


“What I referred to in my Leinster wouldn’t say the were the best is your post earlier where you said Leinster were the best overall. You said that in two separate posts. Seasons dont work like that, they are individual. Unless the same team keeps winning then you can say they were the best over a period of time and group them, but thats not the case here.”

Well then we’ve just been talking at cross purposes. In that my position (that Leinster were the best team overall in 2022-2024) was pretty clear, and you just decided to respond to a different point (whether Leinster were the best team individually in particular years) essentially making the entire discussion completely pointless. I guess if you think that trophies are the only thing that matters then it makes sense to see the season as an individual event that culminates in a trophy (or not), whereas because I believe that trophies matter a lot, but that so does winning matches and making finals, it makes it easier for me to consider quality over an extended period.

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MT 1 hour ago
Ex-Wallaby laughs off claims Bath are amongst the best in the world

As I said in one of my first replies to you - we can agree to disagree. If you want to leave it no problem. I completely disagree with your ranking of Leinster as the best team in the world. Now you have said you will change it if Bordeaux win the Top 14. Well as Leinster themselves prioritise the CC over the URC and Bordeaux won the CC, how are they not ranked higher by you? Are Leinster one of the best teams, yeah - never said they weren’t. But not the very best team, as the very best team have trophies to show for their seasons. They matter when you discuss the very best.


You can get frustrated and say I am not reading what you write, but when you quote me, then your first line is to say thats true (what I wrote), but by the end of the paragraph have stated something different, thats where you contradict yourself. Just so we are clear, you said you would too on my statement that I would rather be a fan of a team that won a trophy over the three seasons, but end the paragraph saying you would rather be a fan of the team that won the most matches but didn’t win a trophy. Both cant be true. Thats one example of where you contradict yourself.


Pointless comparison on Blackburn and Tottenham to this discussion as no-one includes them on a list of the best club. I would say that Blackburns title season was better than anything Tottenham have done in the Premier League. My reference to the league was that the team who finished second over two seasons are not better than the two other teams who did win the league each time. One of the best - of course, but not the best, which is relevant to my point here about Leinster, not comparing teams who won 30 years ago against a team that never won.


What I referred to in my Leinster wouldn’t say the were the best is your post earlier where you said Leinster were the best overall. You said that in two separate posts. Seasons dont work like that, they are individual. Unless the same team keeps winning then you can say they were the best over a period of time and group them, but thats not the case here.

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