'The real motivation' that is driving on Maro Itoje and England

Thanks for highlighting how well TW has developed. The fact he outkicked a Chiefs side should bode well for Aus.

The lions team for Argentina looks stacked. Less leinster and more power based me thinks?

The fact is the eligibility rule does exist and any English qualified player is aware when they sign a foreign contract that they're making themselves ineligible and less likely to be picked for the Lions. If Jack Willis and Dave Ribbans priority was playing for England and the Lions they wouldn't be playing in France. Whether they should be allowed to play for England or not isn't my point. Under the current rules they have chosen to make themselves ineligible so they can't have their cake and eat it while other players have taken lesser salaries to commit themselves to their dream of playing for England and the Lions. They have made their choices.

Besides, while it works for South Africa doesn't prove it will work for any other country. South Africa have an extraordinary talent pool of incredible rugby athletes which no other country can compete with. They sadly don't have the resources to keep hold of them so they've been forced into this system. If they had the wealth to keep all their players at home and were still playing in Super Rugby they might be even better… they could be worse. We can't know for sure but cherry picking the best country in the world with a sample size of 1 and extrapolating it to other nations with very different circumstances doesn't hold water. Again, not saying the eligibility rule is correct just that you can't assume scrapping it would benefit us simply because South Africa are world champions.

If you go to school in the North and rugby/tag rugby isn’t even on the PE curriculum until 12/13 as opposed to 7 or 8 in Leinster, how is that the IRFU’s fault? Even then, it’s only certain schools in the North that will offer it. On what basis would they go up to the North (strictly speaking, another country in the eyes of some) and dictate their schools programme?

The ABs used to be light years ahead of the pack because their eventual test superstars had been playing structured, competitive rugby from an average age of 5/6! On top of kicking it around the yard from the age they could walk with their rugby mad parents and older siblings.

Have you somehow gotten the impression that the Leinster system is not working for Irish rugby? What is that based on? The SARU should just stop competing because despite their back to back RWC’s, all 4 of their URC teams aren’t contesting semi-finals every year?

A couple of mining towns basically provided a Welsh team in the 70’s that were unplayable. Queensland in the old Super 10 provided the spine of an Oz team that were the first to win multiple world cups and in the same decade. The ABs population density is well documented with 35% of the population living around one city.

Is England’s match day 23 equally represented by mid-counties players, tough as nails northerners, a couple from Cornwall, a pack of manc’s and a lone Geordie? Ever?

It’s cute they won’t relegate the Falcons but has a Geordie test player ever hit 50 caps?

It’s ok not to understand geography. It’s also ok not to understand sport. Not understanding the geography of sport is something different entirely.

As things stand they are content to sit in their Dublin ivory and place an ever increasing stack of chips chasing stars when actually, it’s incumbent on them to get their sleeves rolled up and set about finding, coaching and developing another few hundred ikes (god help us…) that would be lost to rugby otherwise!!!

My point is that there isn’t currently an All-Ireland schools game and maybe that’s a trick they are missing. The provinces have a regular mini-tournament I think at U19, against each other and it happens at amateur club level. It’s not getting them at 14/15 though.

Ulster’s funding (and the other provinces) is still comparable to Leinster on a pound-for-pound basis because… it’s relative to the player size! There still aren’t enough playing the sport at age grade in Ulster. That’s still the point!

Even if you financially dope a squad it will eventually age out. You can do nothing without increased participation. That is the next step for them and still the reason for the drop off against Leinster.

My only chip from my playing days is on my knee. A big fat prop fell on me in training and that was the end of the road for me. If anything, it’s props I still have the evils for.

If I see one of those big fat puddings standing in Tesco, I always throw a pineapple or two at their big fat heads!!!! Then hide - because I’m a coward.

I’m great with the Geography. Auckland is the biggest city in Oz! You’re welcome!

I’ve a lot of time for Wilkinson. When he finally left test rugby behind and went to France he played the best rugby of his career. Exceptional tackler for a #10.

I wonder if you might just be carrying a small chip or two on those shoulders, maybe from your playing days in Ulster…?

Ps your expertise on the demographics of cities in Ireland is right up their with your kiwi georgraphy nous!

Maybe it’s a Kiwi coaching thing?😉

I think you’re right about Qld being outside RA control, which means it will be more difficult for RA to persist with its ‘Irish’ policy of talent distribution.