Leaguel Counsel Episode Six
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Indigenous Enigmas
Our game of Rugby League has a variety of different players. There is the immortals, players that will never be forgotten and were basically the best players we have ever had the privilege to witness. There is the one club stalwarts, the Steve Menzies and Alan Tongues of the world. There is the multiple club journey men like Jeremy Latimore and Corey Payne, players that don’t stay long at one club but do the job that is asked of them. There is the rocks and diamond type players where the sublime to the ridiculous occurs in a couple of sets, refer to Shaun Kenny-Dowell and Krisnan Inu for examples. One type of player that has died out is the kicking specialist, the player that can kick very well either at goal or in general play but other than that offers very little to nothing like Jason Taylor, Daryl Halligan or Eion Crossan. The one type of player that is really close to our heart is the Indigenous enigma. Let’s describe the indigenous enigma.
The indigenous enigma is generally a kid with indigenous heritage who is brought up and plays all his junior football in the bush. He’s the kid that every town within 200km knows about after he turns 10 year old. The kids skills are talked about throughout the pubs over schooners in Country New South Wales and Queensland. More often than not the kids father played a bit of top level league or sometimes a bit of prize fighting. When the kid turns 14 years old talent scouts from all the big Sydney clubs are watching his performances at the country football carnivals. During the tournaments these talent scouts are organising meetings with the kids parents trying to convince them that their club is the right one for their child and if he’s signs with them the club will look after his welfare.
At the age of 15 he has already signed with a Sydney club. Some will go all the way to Sydney to finish their schooling only for half of them to return to their country town within a couple of months because of home schooling. They will then play senior football in their country league from 16 years old to their mid 30’s and become local legends in their communities. The stories at the local pub will be about what if….. what if the bloke didn’t get home sick and managed to stick it out in Sydney?
The kids that can get past the home sickness play SG Ball and Jersey Flegg for their clubs. Their tremendous skill alone makes them stars in these comps against soft city kids. By now they start to get allowances that gives them some spending money. The under 20’s comp beckons and their natural skill level gets them through but the effort on the training paddock starts to dwindle as their attention is drawn to the bright neon lights of the big city and they have a bit of cash with which to exploit it.
The head of football at the club and the first grade coach discuss often when they will blood him in first grade. They have been planning for years for this young prodigy to turn their club into title contenders. The problem is although he playing well at under 20s carving up the kids, they know the work behind the scenes isn’t happening and it won’t be a good look to the other players in the club if they give the kid an opportunity even though he has been cutting corners in the gym.
Its mid season now, the club is in the middle of the table and the injuries are taking their toll on the clubs roster. The club is desperate and they make the decision to give their Indigenous enigma a go in first grade. The kid looks a natural on the big stage, his skill speed and deceptive strength are a sight to behold. The Sydney media starts talking the kid up, his photo is splashed all over the daily telegraph, the panellists on the footy show wax lyrical about him.
He continues to string some great performances together and the club rides the wave of success on the back of his prodigal performances. After 25-30 first grade games things start to go wrong. He gets caught up with the wrong crowd, the success goes to his head, and he starts turning up late to training. His performances start to go down as well he becomes a turnstile in defence. He gets dropped and not much is heard of him for the rest of the season.
The kid has a big preseason but still has ill-disclipine and the club has to part ways. The fans can’t believe it, only 6 months ago they thought he was going to be a club all time great. The player is now damaged goods and other clubs are scared to go near him but are tempted by his potential and the mercurial performances he has produced on the big stage. This player goes from club to club showing flashes of glimpses but he can’t string it together consistently. He ends up with 60 first grade games before no other club wants him and he moves back to his home town to play senior grade football taking his town to a handful of premierships before retiring in his late 30s.
This is the average story of the Indigenous enigma type of player. They are so special to watch. When you have been following this great game as long as we have though you learn to really enjoy the brilliance because you know it may be gone all too soon. This week we ask on the podcast will Latrell Mitchell become an Indigenous enigma? Will he go down the path of Joe Williams, Wes Patten, Daine Laurie, Owen Craigie, Chris Sandow, Anthony Mitchell, Brett Grogan, Yilleen Gordon, Milton Thaiday, Richie Williams, Leo Dynevor and Ewan McGrady to name just a few. Latrell is at a turning point in his career the question is will he turn into the Indigenous enigma or the talented representative player like Matt Bowen, Sam Thaiday, Rhys Wesser, David Peachey and Nathan Blacklock or maybe even an all time great (e.g Arthur Beetson, Greg Inglis, Gordon Tallis). The interesting thing right now is that he is at a cross roads. He could go either way and we are looking forward to witnessing the story unfold.
Here is some indigenous grass roots rugby league at its best – sniff out an intercept from nowhere!
Comments on RugbyPass
It couldn’t have been Ryan Crotty. He wasn’t selected in either World Cup side - they chose Money Bill instead. And Money Bill only cared about himself, and that manager he had, not the team.
25 Go to commentsYawn 🥱 nobody would give a hoot about this new trophy. End of the day we just have to beat Ireland and NZ this year then they can finally shut up 🤐
13 Go to commentsTalking bout Ryan Crotty? Heard Crotty say in a interview once that SBW doesen't care about the team . He went on to say that whenever they lost a big game, SBW would be happy as if nothing happened, according to him someone who cares would look down.. Personally I think Crotty is in the wrong, not for feeling gutted but for expecting others 2 be like him… I have been a bad loser forever as it matters so much to me but good on you SBW for being able to see the bigger picture….
25 Go to commentsThis sounds like a WWE idea so Americans can also get excited about rugby, RUGBY NEEDS A INTERNATIONAL CALENDER .. The rugby Championship and Six Nations can be held at same time, top 3 of six nations and top 3 of Rugby championship (6 nations should include Georgia AND another qualifying country while Fiji, Japan and Samoa/Tonga qualifier should make out 6 Southern teams).. Scrap June internationals and year end tours. Have a Elite top six Cup and the Bottom 6 in a secondary comp….
13 Go to commentsThe rugby championship would be even stronger with Fiji in it… I know it doesen’t fit the long term plans of NZ or Aus but you are robbing a whole nation of being able to see their best players play for Fiji…. Every second player in NZ and AUS teams has Fijian surnames… shame on you!!! World rugby won’t step in either as France and England has now also joined in…. I guess where money is involved it will always be the poor countries missing out….
82 Go to commentsNo surprise there. How hard can it be to pick a ball off the ground and chuck it to a mate? 😂
2 Go to commentsSometimes people just like a moan mate!
1 Go to commentsexcellent idea ! rugby needs this 💪
13 Go to comments9 Brumbies! What a joke! The best performing team in Oz! Ditch Skelton for Swain or Neville. Ryan Lonergan ahead of McDermott any day! Best selection bolter is Toole … amazing player
12 Go to commentsI like this, but ultimately rugby already has enough trophies. Trying to make more games “consequential" might prove to be a fools errand, although this is a less bad idea than some others. Minor quibble with the title of the article; it isn’t very meaningful to say the boks are the unofficial world champions when it would be functionally impossible for the Raeburn trophy not to be held by the world champions. There’s a period of a few months every 4 years when there is no “unofficial” world champion, and the Raeburn trophy is held by the actual world champions.
13 Go to commentsIts a great idea but one that I dont think will have a lot of traction. It will depend on the prestige that they each hold but if you can do that it would be great. When Japan beat the Boks (my team) I was absolutely devestated but I wont deny the great game they played that day. We were outclassed and it was one of the best games of rugby I have seen. Using an idea like this you might just give the the underdog teams more of an opportunity to beat the big teams and I can absolutely see it being a brilliant display of rugby. They beat us because they planned for that game. It was a great moment for Japan. This way we can remove the 4 year wait and give teams something to aim for outside of World Cup years.
13 Go to commentsHi, Dave here. Happy to answer questions 🥰
13 Go to commentsDon’t think that headline is accurate. It’s great to see Aus doing better but I’m not sure they’ve shown much threat to the top of the table. They shouldn’t be inflating wins against the lousy Highlanders and Crusaders either.
3 Go to commentsSuch a shame Roigard and Aumua picked up long term injuries, probably the two form players in the comp. Also, pretty sure Clarke Dermody isn’t their coach. Got it half right though.
3 Go to commentsOh the Aussie media, they never learn. At least Andrew Kellaway is like “Woah, yeah it’s great, but settle down there guys” having endured years of the Aussie media, fans, and often their players getting ahead of themselves only to fall flat on their faces. Have the “We'll win the Bledisloe for sure this year!” headlines started yet? It’s simple to see what’s going on. The Aussie teams are settled, they didn't lose any of their major players overseas. The Crusaders and Chiefs lost key experienced All Blacks, and Razor in the Crusaders case, and clearly neither are anywhere near as strong as last year (The Canes and Blues would probably be 3rd & 4th if they were). The Highlanders are annually average, even more so post-Aaron Smith and a big squad clean out. The two teams at the top? The two nz sides with largely the same settled roster as last year, except Ardie Savea for the Canes. They’ve both got far better coaches now too. If the Aussies are going to win the title, this is the year the kiwi sides will be weakest, so they better take their chance.
3 Go to commentsThe World Cup has to be the gold standard, line in the sand. 113 teams compete for what is the opportunity to make the pool stages, and then the knockout games for the trophy. The concept is sound. This must have been the rationale when the World Cup was created, surely? But I’m all for Looking forward and finding new ways for the SH to dominate the NH into the future. The autumn series needs a change up. Let’s start by having the NH teams come south every odd year for the Autumn/Spring series games?
13 Go to commentsWhat’ll happen when the AI models of the future go back in time and try to destroy the AI models of the past standing in their way of certain victory?
44 Go to commentsThanks, Nick. We (Seanny Maloney, Brett and I) just discussed Charlie as a potential Wallaby No 8, and wondered if he has truly realised how big he is in contact (and whether he can add 5 kg w/o slowing down). Your scouting report confirms our suspicions he has the materiel. No one knows if he has the mentality (as Johann van Graan said this week about CJ, Duane and Alfie B) to carry 10-15 times a game.
57 Go to commentsHe would be a great player for the Stormers, Dobbo should approach the guy.
3 Go to commentsGood article. A few years back when he was playing for the Cheetahs, he was a quiet standout for exactly the seasons stated here. I occasionally get to see his games in the UK, and he has become a more complete player and in many ways like an Irish player. His work ethic is so suitable to the Leinster game. I wonder if Rassie would have him listed somewhere.
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