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'It wasn't us' - All Blacks react to Rugby World Cup spying drama

By Ian Cameron
Jean-Pierre Farandou CEO of SNCFtalks to the media as the New Zealand All Blacks squad arrives at Gare de Lyon on September 06, 2023 in Paris, France. New Zealand face France in the opening match of Rugby World Cup France 2023 on Friday September 8, 2023 (Photo by Glenn Gervot - World Rugby/World Rugby via Getty Images)

All Blacks head coach Ian Foster has denied any knowledge of the Rugby World Cup’s so-called spying scandal, never mind New Zealand having anything to do with it.

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Earlier this week The Telegraph reported that a leading tier one country had approached World Rugby for clarification around potential sanctions being brought against a side should they be found spying on another team.

The press put the question to Foster on Wednesday, with the All Blacks boss quickly booting the question into touch.

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“No, I haven’t heard of that. It wasn’t us. Was anyone spying on us? I guess it’s ‘Welcome to the World Cup’. It’s that simple. There’s lots of pressure on, people react in different ways. It’s an exciting time, everyone is looking for an edge. I’m not sure where that’s coming from. I’m pretty confident we’ve been training alone, but who knows?”

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Spying in rugby union is nothing new, with the issue raising its head over the years in the sport and is frequently a talking point at Rugby World Cups. Back in 2019, then England head coach Eddies Jones had security posted around their Pennyhill Park training pitch prior to the Six Nations, and it’s an accusation that is often levelled at teams from Test level right down to schoolboy rugby.

“Around 20 years ago it(spying) was quite common when there wasn’t much vision around so you used to send coaches out to have a look at the opposition and put them with hats on and all sorts of things,” said Jones at the time. “That used to go on but I haven’t seen much of it of late because there is such an abundance of vision you can get on teams you don’t really need to do that.”

Sir Clive Woodward went to extraordinary lengths to keep his training ground runs secret during the successful 2003 World Cup campaign and while he was in charge of the 2005 British and Irish Lions.

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While Foster seemed non-plussed with the news, Wales head coach Warren Gatland said he wasn’t surprised.

“I am not surprised that concerns have been raised about spying ahead of the start of the Rugby World Cup in France,” he wrote in his Telegraph column. “As a head coach you are always suspicious that your training sessions might be being secretly recorded, particularly when you are playing away from home.

“We use drones to film our own sessions, but it is hard to be sure that there are no other drones monitoring from long distance. The technology in cameras now is such that you could probably be a couple of miles away and able to discreetly film training away from security.”

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Bob Marler 369 days ago

Wonder what the ABs would gain from spying anyway. What good coaching looks like?

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Bob Marler 370 days ago

Are there actually any world rugby rules against spying? Asking for a friend who denies being a spy but is just curious.

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yster 370 days ago

Does anybody really need to spy on Wales or Gatland, he also cries foul and has never really delivered the results, best Kiwi coaches stay in NZ, Razor will be refreshing and necessary. Jacques Nienaber and Rassie are correct, so much footage available why would someone need to spy?

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Riekert 371 days ago

Don't worry about spying, worry about Susie 1995!!

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Paul 371 days ago

I'm a spy. Got a fake mo and glasses even.

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Dave 371 days ago

I picked the spies to win the World cup

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Ben Smith is a Dick 371 days ago

The poms have got James 007 on the case whereas the Welsh have got Austin Powers

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MattJH 371 days ago

That’s exactly the response a spy would give

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NS 3 hours ago
Scott Robertson has mounting problems to fix for misfiring All Blacks

We need big bodies to match European and South African Team. NZ got them in heaps. The end of the year Northern Hemisphere tour is coming and it is the perfect time to realign and makes changes.

Firstly, a few pointers for Razor. BB and DMAc are not 1st Fives. As long as these two start all blacks will never win big games. Pick only one in the reserve for big games as cover for FB. Richie Moanga is ok and better than BB and DMAc at 1st five. If Richie is available BB and Dmac should never be picked.

Secondly, Rico has to go. Rico is the reason why all blacks did not win the world cup. It was lost in the quarter final when he sledged departing Irish player. Perhaps if he had performed a haka and bring him to tears rather than derail him in his last day, Rugby Gods will be smiling at AB. It is karma. Like Gregans "wait 4 more years" Sledge and Australia lost the final to England

On the other hand, you see the South African players will never ever do such acts and go down that low. They are very respectful and good people and they will keep winning. Rugby Gods will make South Africa win and they will keep winning unless Scott makes these changes

Thirdly, Don't let Sam Cane go. All Blacks have to keep him for big games. All Blacks Maul Defense is good because of him. Just keep him at test level and no other Rugby or very minimal club Rugby. Young loosies should hang around with Cane and learn about humility and respect

A message to BB, Dmac, Rico, Ardie Savea and TJ. Please make yourselves unavailable for 2 years. Ardie you are good but not a Back Row. You are too light.

That out of the way, now let’s select the team.

Front row sorted out by Jason Ryan. Won’t talk about it.

Locking sorted out with Tupou, Scott, Darry, Pat Tuipulotu and Josh Lord

Loosies. Do away with Ardie for a while. Go with Siti, Sotutu, Cane, Ethan, Jacobson, Papalii and Finau, Peter Lakai

Young stars like Satiti and Finau have to be grounded and train hard in the gym and bulk up for the next world cup. Sotutu has to work harder off the ball.

Half Backs: TJ out.  Cam Roigard [has to learn to scream and communicate game time], Ratima and Noah Hotham

Back Line:            1st Five: Harry Plummer [Inside center Cover]

                                2nd five: JB [Fullback and first five cover]

                                Outside Centre: Billy Proctor

                                Wings: Clarke and Will Jordon [Fullback Cover]

                                Fullback: Ruben Love [1st Five Cover], Zarn Sullivan

Wings: Shaun Stevson [Fullback Cover], Talaea and Narawa

Centre: Quinn Tupaea, Umaga Jenson Brothers - need big boys, ALB

Messaage to BB, DMac, Ardiae, Rico and  TJ. If you want All Backs to evolve and be world leaders again, please make yourselves unavailable for 2 years. Please just do it for your country. You will come back stronger in 2 years.

New Zealand team reminds me of NSW State of Origin. They always had the best players in their positions but never selected them in their position until Madge came and now NSW will be untouchable.

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