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Rest and rotations for All Blacks isn't staving off injuries

Samipeni Finau of the Chiefs leaves injured during the round 11 Super Rugby Pacific match between Chiefs and Western Force at FMG Stadium Waikato, on May 04, 2024, in Hamilton, New Zealand. (Photo by Michael Bradley/Getty Images)

It’s almost safer not to let them play at all.

You might have noticed a few All Blacks getting injured in Super Rugby Pacific.

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Hurricanes halfback Cam Roigard is the most long-term one, followed by teammate Asafo Aumua.

Rieko Ioane, Scott Barrett, Damian McKenzie and Samipeni Finau all got dinged up over the weekend. Ethan Blackadder didn’t even take the field for the Crusaders against the Reds because of a thigh strain suffered at training.

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It’s no mean feat for any All Black to be sustaining injuries given the number on sabbaticals and load-management regimes. Throw in mid-season byes and you wonder why we’re restricting players’ minutes at all.

Rugby in New Zealand has its challenges.

Provincial unions and New Zealand Rugby (NZR) are at loggerheads. Television staples such as Grassroots Rugby and Mainfreight Rugby have already gone by the wayside, with live NPC games potentially following suit.

It kind of puts the onus on NZR to ensure Super Rugby Pacific is a competition in which All Blacks are ever-present and the ball is in play for more than 20-odd minutes of each match.

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Perhaps if our elite players actually played a bit more, they wouldn’t get injured quite so often.

In absolute fairness, I’ve never understood the rationale for rest and rotation and can’t believe it didn’t die a death following the All Blacks’ disastrous 2007 Rugby World Cup campaign.

“You can’t expect they’re going to play 17 games and then go and play 14 tests,’’ All Blacks coach Scott Robertson said ahead of the start of this Super Rugby season.

“They’re not going to play 31 games this year, and players aren’t going to play 17 games of Super Rugby and get them peaking for finals.

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“They’re going to have to be managed and what does that individual athlete need…then it’s individualised conversations, medical are involved and we’re open and honest.

“It’s a fine balance for everyone.’”

A lot of that’s nonsense, as far as I’m concerned. I mean, why can’t they play?

Elite NRL players seem to, as well as competing in a State of Origin series and a couple of test matches. That’s the obvious Australasian comparison, given our competitions run head-to-head.

The way Robertson presents it makes it appear as if these blokes are playing 31 weeks in a row, which is cobblers for starters. And since when did the All Blacks roll the same 23 out for 14 games in succession?

There are enough breaks and windows in the season not to have to prescribe rest. A bit of rotation is inevitable too, because you don’t need your best 15 for every Test.

This situation isn’t a fine balance for everyone, of course, because the paying public never gets to have a say.

Sure, we buy television subscriptions and season tickets, but we do so on trust. We have no input into who plays and when.

We certainly don’t get a discount or refund when the second-stringers are having a run.

We’re forever saving players for a rainy day. Sitting them out or substituting them so that, when a Rugby World Cup final eventually comes, they’re fit enough to win it.

Only we don’t always win. Not everyone – despite the best management methods – is fit and available to play, regardless of what’s been lost or sacrificed along the way.

Are we eventually going to go the whole hog here? Are All Blacks never going to play provincial and franchise footy?

Are they just permanently going to be cotton-wooled in All Blacks training camps, with a diet of Test matches and nothing else?

I have a simple solution here: if you’re contracted to NZR, you play in New Zealand all year round and you play every week that you’re fit for selection.

No sabbaticals, no rest weeks, no restricted minutes.

Trying to pre-empt injury, by meeting players’ individual needs, doesn’t stop them from getting hurt.

You either play or you don’t play. There’s no in between.

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David 72 days ago

NRL players don’t have anywhere near the number of Tests. Some people would be happy having Rest Homes full if 40 yo ex-players walking, or hobbling more like it, into walls. It’s just a game!

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David 72 days ago

NOW Razor is worried about ABs getting injured or overplayed! Didn’t bother him last year. He happily played his AB Crusaders.

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Chiefs Mana 72 days ago

One of the few Bidwell articles I can agree with.

If coaches played their players through niggles and consistently played them 80mins then you could make an argument for resting protocols - they obviously don’t and are incredibly responsible, let’s give up the resting nonsense and let the boys play.

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Jonathan Gil 72 days ago

Rest is for namby pamby sissies, I see. True men should overcome their trifling injuries by playing week in, week out. Bidwell’s stance reminds me of a Jon Gadsby character from the 70s, a rugby captain giving an after-match speech: “It was a very physical contest. One of our players caught a boot on the back of his head in a ruck, and he died, actually. But to his credit, he played on.”

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Jon 4 hours ago
Six starters from the Drua named in Fiji team to take on the All Blacks

*Fiji team to play New Zealand:* 1. Eroni Nawa 28-year-old 1.89 m 131 kg - Rugby World Cup starter - 350minutes for Saracens back up to Mako Vunipola but has much better carry stats this year 2. Tevita Ikanivere 24 y/o 1.82 m 114 kg - RWC impact to Northampton Saints starter Sam Matavasi but won the starting spot for knockout qf match - Drua rake and much more lively stats on the carry that Matavasi but maybe more raw than the Saints veteran. Behind Asafo Aumua still in all stats (still very impressive). Got the starting spot over Asafo Aumua in Alun Wyn Jones testimonial 3. Mesake Doge 31 y/o 1.80 m 122 kg - RWC impact to Bayonnes starter Luke Tagi 4. Isoa Nasilasila 24 y/o 1.97 m117 kg - RWC and Drua starter 5. Temo Mayanavanua 26 y/o 1.97 m 120 kg - RWC impact to Drua Kiwi Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta - more dominant tackler and impact player for Northampton Saints behind Top 14 bound Alex Moon 6. Lekima Tagitagivalu 28 y/o 1.95 m 110 kg - RWC starter at both openside and blindside but has spent half his career locking - Pau everywhere man, started in their euro knockout loss 7. Kitione Salawa 23 y/o 1.92 m 95 kg - Drua’s new boy tearaway, one of the leading, if not the best per 80minutes turnover mechants in Super Rugby 8. Viliame Mata 32 y/o 1.96 m 116 kg - Fiji and European star 9. Frank Lomani 28 y/o 1.80 m 81 kg - RWC test 9 - Best try involvements 9 in SR for the Drua behind Ratima and TJP 10. Isaiah Armstrong-Ravula 20 y/o 1.75 m 86 kg - Test rookie comes in in place of Test and Drua star Ilaisa Droasese who might have had flight or visa issues I suppose.* * 11. Semi Radradra - enough said 12. Inia Tabuavou 21 y/o 1.85 m 101 kg - Youngster has had some good minutes and stats filling in at Racing 92 13. Waisea Nayacalevu 34 y/o 1.93 m 105 kg - RWC starter and captain - Dominant carrier for Toulon when asked to return early after the WC but injured for the season shortly after which saw Leicester . 14. Jiuta Wainiqolo 25 y/o 1.87 m 97 kg - Has some crunching numbers for Toulon on the wing along side his captain 15. Vilimoni Botitu - Promoted to flyhalf for the RWC quarter finals after injuries - Has mostly had minutes for castres as inside center Reserves 16. Zuriel Togiatama - Drua impact 17. Haereiti Hetet - Drua #1 18. Samu Tawake - Drua impact 19. Albert Tuisue - Fiji and Gloucester impact player 20. Elia Canakaivata - Late 20s in his second pro year (Drua) by the looks must have come through Fiji pathways or 7s 21. Simione Kuruvoli - Test backup and a player many though was best impact at RWC 22. Caleb Muntz - Seen as leader at 10 but regularly injured after coming from English Championship 23. Sireli Maqala - RWC player and Bayonne center Missing players Isefo Masi - Star center of Super Rugby for the Drua at the Olympics playing 7’s I think Josua Tuisova - Fiji’s inside center at RWC got little minutes this Top 14 season so suspect injured still only 30 - Reports about managing his minutes and his body, looks like Toulon have put the hard word on him not to play until November window (back from injury around June) Levani Botia - RWC star but getting on in years and injured toward back of Top14, hopefully not the same as above Vinaya Habosi - Another RWC star winger who finished his Top 14 season recently after having a 3 month (injury?) layoff in the middle. Not scoring any tries. Hopefully partaking in 7VNS and not blocked by Racing 92 as he’s just gone missing to my sluthing Mesake Vocevoce - Breakdown beast of a lock for a young fella in 2024 Drua Selestino Ravutaumada - Probably Drua’s best attacking back and one who I also confuse for his older captain, their RWC wing and at the Olympics as well Meli Derenalagi - Block buster 8 for the Drua Please add a reply if you know better about any of these players (and there wereabouts if not playing)

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Jon 4 hours ago
All Black Ardie Savea close to joining Moana Pasifika – report

Would be a great move by Ardie, respect. *Fiji team to play New Zealand:* 1. Eroni Nawa 28-year-old 1.89 m 131 kg - Rugby World Cup starter - 350minutes for Saracens back up to Mako Vunipola but has much better carry stats this year 2. Tevita Ikanivere 24 y/o 1.82 m 114 kg - RWC impact to Northampton Saints starter Sam Matavasi but won the starting spot for knockout qf match - Drua rake and much more lively stats on the carry that Matavasi but maybe more raw than the Saints veteran. Behind Asafo Aumua still in all stats (still very impressive). Got the starting spot over Asafo Aumua in Alun Wyn Jones testimonial 3. Mesake Doge 31 y/o 1.80 m 122 kg - RWC impact to Bayonnes starter Luke Tagi 4. Isoa Nasilasila 24 y/o 1.97 m117 kg - RWC and Drua starter 5. Temo Mayanavanua 26 y/o 1.97 m 120 kg - RWC impact to Drua Kiwi Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta - more dominant tackler and impact player for Northampton Saints behind Top 14 bound Alex Moon 6. Lekima Tagitagivalu 28 y/o 1.95 m 110 kg - RWC starter at both openside and blindside but has spent half his career locking - Pau everywhere man, started in their euro knockout loss 7. Kitione Salawa 23 y/o 1.92 m 95 kg - Drua’s new boy tearaway, one of the leading, if not the best per 80minutes turnover mechants in Super Rugby 8. Viliame Mata 32 y/o 1.96 m 116 kg - Fiji and European star 9. Frank Lomani 28 y/o 1.80 m 81 kg - RWC test 9 - Best try involvements 9 in SR for the Drua behind Ratima and TJP 10. Isaiah Armstrong-Ravula 20 y/o 1.75 m 86 kg - Test rookie comes in in place of Test and Drua star Ilaisa Droasese who might have had flight or visa issues I suppose.* * 11. Semi Radradra - enough said 12. Inia Tabuavou 21 y/o 1.85 m 101 kg - Youngster has had some good minutes and stats filling in at Racing 92 13. Waisea Nayacalevu 34 y/o 1.93 m 105 kg - RWC starter and captain - Dominant carrier for Toulon when asked to return early after the WC but injured for the season shortly after which saw Leicester . 14. Jiuta Wainiqolo 25 y/o 1.87 m 97 kg - Has some crunching numbers for Toulon on the wing along side his captain 15. Vilimoni Botitu - Promoted to flyhalf for the RWC quarter finals after injuries - Has mostly had minutes for castres as inside center Reserves 16. Zuriel Togiatama - Drua impact 17. Haereiti Hetet - Drua #1 18. Samu Tawake - Drua impact 19. Albert Tuisue - Fiji and Gloucester impact player 20. Elia Canakaivata - Late 20s in his second pro year (Drua) by the looks must have come through Fiji pathways or 7s 21. Simione Kuruvoli - Test backup and a player many though was best impact at RWC 22. Caleb Muntz - Seen as leader at 10 but regularly injured after coming from English Championship 23. Sireli Maqala - RWC player and Bayonne center Missing players Isefo Masi - Star center of Super Rugby for the Drua at the Olympics playing 7’s I think Josua Tuisova - Fiji’s inside center at RWC got little minutes this Top 14 season so suspect injured still only 30 - Reports about managing his minutes and his body, looks like Toulon have put the hard word on him not to play until November window (back from injury around June) Levani Botia - RWC star but getting on in years and injured toward back of Top14, hopefully not the same as above Vinaya Habosi - Another RWC star winger who finished his Top 14 season recently after having a 3 month (injury?) layoff in the middle. Not scoring any tries. Hopefully partaking in 7VNS and not blocked by Racing 92 as he’s just gone missing to my sluthing Mesake Vocevoce - Breakdown beast of a lock for a young fella in 2024 Drua Selestino Ravutaumada - Probably Drua’s best attacking back and one who I also confuse for his older captain, their RWC wing and at the Olympics as well Meli Derenalagi - Block buster 8 for the Drua Please add a reply if you know better about any of these players (and there wereabouts if not playing)

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Jon 4 hours ago
All Blacks name six debutants in team to play Fiji in San Diego

*Fiji team to play New Zealand:* 1. Eroni Nawa 28-year-old 1.89 m 131 kg - Rugby World Cup starter - 350minutes for Saracens back up to Mako Vunipola but has much better carry stats this year 2. Tevita Ikanivere 24 y/o 1.82 m 114 kg - RWC impact to Northampton Saints starter Sam Matavasi but won the starting spot for knockout qf match - Drua rake and much more lively stats on the carry that Matavasi but maybe more raw than the Saints veteran. Behind Asafo Aumua still in all stats (still very impressive). Got the starting spot over Asafo Aumua in Alun Wyn Jones testimonial 3. Mesake Doge 31 y/o 1.80 m 122 kg - RWC impact to Bayonnes starter Luke Tagi 4. Isoa Nasilasila 24 y/o 1.97 m117 kg - RWC and Drua starter 5. Temo Mayanavanua 26 y/o 1.97 m 120 kg - RWC impact to Drua Kiwi Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta - more dominant tackler and impact player for Northampton Saints behind Top 14 bound Alex Moon 6. Lekima Tagitagivalu 28 y/o 1.95 m 110 kg - RWC starter at both openside and blindside but has spent half his career locking - Pau everywhere man, started in their euro knockout loss 7. Kitione Salawa 23 y/o 1.92 m 95 kg - Drua’s new boy tearaway, one of the leading, if not the best per 80minutes turnover mechants in Super Rugby 8. Viliame Mata 32 y/o 1.96 m 116 kg - Fiji and European star 9. Frank Lomani 28 y/o 1.80 m 81 kg - RWC test 9 - Best try involvements 9 in SR for the Drua behind Ratima and TJP 10. Isaiah Armstrong-Ravula 20 y/o 1.75 m 86 kg - Test rookie comes in in place of Test and Drua star Ilaisa Droasese who might have had flight or visa issues I suppose.* * 11. Semi Radradra - enough said 12. Inia Tabuavou 21 y/o 1.85 m 101 kg - Youngster has had some good minutes and stats filling in at Racing 92 13. Waisea Nayacalevu 34 y/o 1.93 m 105 kg - RWC starter and captain - Dominant carrier for Toulon when asked to return early after the WC but injured for the season shortly after which saw Leicester . 14. Jiuta Wainiqolo 25 y/o 1.87 m 97 kg - Has some crunching numbers for Toulon on the wing along side his captain 15. Vilimoni Botitu - Promoted to flyhalf for the RWC quarter finals after injuries - Has mostly had minutes for castres as inside center Reserves 16. Zuriel Togiatama - Drua impact 17. Haereiti Hetet - Drua #1 18. Samu Tawake - Drua impact 19. Albert Tuisue - Fiji and Gloucester impact player 20. Elia Canakaivata - Late 20s in his second pro year (Drua) by the looks must have come through Fiji pathways or 7s 21. Simione Kuruvoli - Test backup and a player many though was best impact at RWC 22. Caleb Muntz - Seen as leader at 10 but regularly injured after coming from English Championship 23. Sireli Maqala - RWC player and Bayonne center Missing players Isefo Masi - Star center of Super Rugby for the Drua at the Olympics playing 7’s I think Josua Tuisova - Fiji’s inside center at RWC got little minutes this Top 14 season so suspect injured still only 30 - Reports about managing his minutes and his body, looks like Toulon have put the hard word on him not to play until November window (back from injury around June) Levani Botia - RWC star but getting on in years and injured toward back of Top14, hopefully not the same as above Vinaya Habosi - Another RWC star winger who finished his Top 14 season recently after having a 3 month (injury?) layoff in the middle. Not scoring any tries. Hopefully partaking in 7VNS and not blocked by Racing 92 as he’s just gone missing to my sluthing Mesake Vocevoce - Breakdown beast of a lock for a young fella in 2024 Drua Selestino Ravutaumada - Probably Drua’s best attacking back and one who I also confuse for his older captain, their RWC wing and at the Olympics as well Meli Derenalagi - Block buster 8 for the Drua Please add a reply if you know better about any of these players (and there wereabouts if not playing)

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Jon 4 hours ago
Why Scott Robertson isn't worried about fielding six rookies against Fiji

*Fiji team to play New Zealand:* 1. Eroni Nawa 28-year-old 1.89 m 131 kg - Rugby World Cup starter - 350minutes for Saracens back up to Mako Vunipola but has much better carry stats this year 2. Tevita Ikanivere 24 y/o 1.82 m 114 kg - RWC impact to Northampton Saints starter Sam Matavasi but won the starting spot for knockout qf match - Drua rake and much more lively stats on the carry that Matavasi but maybe more raw than the Saints veteran. Behind Asafo Aumua still in all stats (still very impressive). Got the starting spot over Asafo Aumua in Alun Wyn Jones testimonial 3. Mesake Doge 31 y/o 1.80 m 122 kg - RWC impact to Bayonnes starter Luke Tagi 4. Isoa Nasilasila 24 y/o 1.97 m117 kg - RWC and Drua starter 5. Temo Mayanavanua 26 y/o 1.97 m 120 kg - RWC impact to Drua Kiwi Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta - more dominant tackler and impact player for Northampton Saints behind Top 14 bound Alex Moon 6. Lekima Tagitagivalu 28 y/o 1.95 m 110 kg - RWC starter at both openside and blindside but has spent half his career locking - Pau everywhere man, started in their euro knockout loss 7. Kitione Salawa 23 y/o 1.92 m 95 kg - Drua’s new boy tearaway, one of the leading, if not the best per 80minutes turnover mechants in Super Rugby 8. Viliame Mata 32 y/o 1.96 m 116 kg - Fiji and European star 9. Frank Lomani 28 y/o 1.80 m 81 kg - RWC test 9 - Best try involvements 9 in SR for the Drua behind Ratima and TJP 10. Isaiah Armstrong-Ravula 20 y/o 1.75 m 86 kg - Test rookie comes in in place of Test and Drua star Ilaisa Droasese who might have had flight or visa issues I suppose.* * 11. Semi Radradra - enough said 12. Inia Tabuavou 21 y/o 1.85 m 101 kg - Youngster has had some good minutes and stats filling in at Racing 92 13. Waisea Nayacalevu 34 y/o 1.93 m 105 kg - RWC starter and captain - Dominant carrier for Toulon when asked to return early after the WC but injured for the season shortly after which saw Leicester . 14. Jiuta Wainiqolo 25 y/o 1.87 m 97 kg - Has some crunching numbers for Toulon on the wing along side his captain 15. Vilimoni Botitu - Promoted to flyhalf for the RWC quarter finals after injuries - Has mostly had minutes for castres as inside center Reserves 16. Zuriel Togiatama - Drua impact 17. Haereiti Hetet - Drua #1 18. Samu Tawake - Drua impact 19. Albert Tuisue - Fiji and Gloucester impact player 20. Elia Canakaivata - Late 20s in his second pro year (Drua) by the looks must have come through Fiji pathways or 7s 21. Simione Kuruvoli - Test backup and a player many though was best impact at RWC 22. Caleb Muntz - Seen as leader at 10 but regularly injured after coming from English Championship 23. Sireli Maqala - RWC player and Bayonne center *Missing players* Isefo Masi - Star center of Super Rugby for the Drua at the Olympics playing 7’s I think Josua Tuisova - Fiji’s inside center at RWC got little minutes this Top 14 season so suspect injured still only 30 - Reports about managing his minutes and his body, looks like Toulon have put the hard word on him not to play until November window (back from injury around June) Levani Botia - RWC star but getting on in years and injured toward back of Top14, hopefully not the same as above Vinaya Habosi - Another RWC star winger who finished his Top 14 season recently after having a 3 month (injury?) layoff in the middle. Not scoring any tries. Hopefully partaking in 7VNS and not blocked by Racing 92 as he’s just gone missing to my sluthing Mesake Vocevoce - Breakdown beast of a lock for a young fella in 2024 Drua Selestino Ravutaumada - Probably Drua’s best attacking back and one who I also confuse for his older captain, their RWC wing and at the Olympics as well Meli Derenalagi - Block buster 8 for the Drua Please add a reply if you know better about any of these players (and there wereabouts if not playing)

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