Jake White: 'I'd probably get killed for saying that back home'
Bulls Director of Rugby Jake White, the 2007 World Cup-winning Springbok coach, has joined the chorus of voices that have spoken out against the proposal that South Africa join the Six Nations.
It is a debate that has flared up infrequently for the last couple of years and at the weekend – after the Bulls demolished Bristol Bears 31-17 in their Champions Cup Round Three outing at Ashton Gate – the English media pounced on White with the hackneyed question.
And his response was candid.
“I’m an old school guy,” the Bulls boss told the media gathering.
“I can’t see that you can ever have South Africa playing Six Nations,” he added.
He reflected on his memories of past Six Nations tournaments and British and Irish legend John Peter Rhys (JPR) Williams, who passed away last week.
“I can’t see South Africa play in the Six Nations,” he reiterated.
“So many things have changed in rugby, and hopefully, we will hang on to [the fact] that the Six Nations is for the six nations that play in the north.”
He admitted he is a stickler for tradition.
“Once you start bringing in South Africa, what is stopping you from bringing in New Zealand, Australia, and all that sort of thing?
“Then it’s not the Six Nations.”
White admitted his stance would not make him popular in the Republic.
“As an old-school guy, I hope it won’t happen.
“I’d probably get killed for saying that back home.”
White is not the only recent voice to cry out against the idea.
The former Six Nations CEO, Ben Morel, also firmly denied there are any plans to expand the championship to include the Springboks.
Morel asserted in an interview last year – before his departure to be replaced by Tom Harrison – that these reports are false and claimed that there have been no discussions regarding the Springboks’ participation in the Six Nations.
“There is no conversation about expanding the Six Nations right now,” Morel told The Telegraph in an interview.
“The entire focus is on finding the right solution and improvements to the July and November windows and finding a more competitive narrative for those fixtures.
“Our whole energy of the Six Nations is focused on that.
“There’s no conversation regarding anything else. There never has been.
“I can understand that dynamic, but the players in the club game in South Africa needed competition, which has been an issue on their side.
“There has been some interest, but we are not engaging in any of those conversations.”
The idea has also not been universally welcomed in South Africa, as shown on RugbyPass’ Boks Office podcast recently.
Two Springbok centurions, Jean de Villiers and Bryan Habana, joined double World Cup winner Damian Willemse and host Hanyani Shimange on the show during the Cape Town SVNS, where they gave their views on the Springboks joining the Northern Hemisphere competition.
While the Springboks’ record try-scorer Habana was dead set against his compatriots relocating to a new competition, De Villiers appeared to be slightly more on the fence, although he does feel South Africa currently have “the best of both worlds.”
“The thing there is, we’re giving our opinion in what we think is best for South Africa, but do they want us there?” the former centre asked.
“I don’t think so,” Habana replied.
De Villiers added: “The Six Nations, what it stands for, the history of it, you need to ask those questions as well.
“How does it influence the history of the game and all of that?
“I think we’ve got the best of both worlds currently where we play our club rugby in the northern hemisphere and we play our international rugby in the Southern Hemisphere in the Rugby Championship.
“So you get the best of both worlds.
“If we were to move totally to the northern hemisphere, we’ve already seen the logistical challenges with that and I think we’ll lose a big part of what South African rugby is all about, because we play New Zealand so much, because we play Australia and Argentina so much.
“So from that point of view, moving away to me will be risky. But a lot of the decisions get made financially and not really on the rugby as such, to be brutally honest.”
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Just what the Sharks needed to get things going in the right direction Defence on the outside really creates havoc for the whole team and needs to be addressed.
7 Go to commentsWell done guys both teams will be ready to play knockout rugby.
1 Go to commentsSurprised that Ramos isn't starting at 15. But what a squad of galacticos!
2 Go to commentsWhy is it a snub? What journalistic garbage is that? Sure the guy is a great player, but there are plenty of loose forwards and not all of them can be Springboks. Also, I know of no-one who doubts Rassie’s judgment. South Africa has a conveyor belt of loose forwards that just keeps producing, so the competition is intense. I certainly wish him well, but there is no entitlement and there is no snub.
17 Go to commentsSkelton may be brought back for the Wallabies so that would be the only reason that may hinder Wilson. Easily the form, most skilful and game IQ of any Oz 8. Valentini’s best and favourite position is 6, but lineouts may be an issue with Skelton, Valentini and Wilson. Will be interesting what Schmidt goes for but for me Wilson should be picked on form. Schmidt rewards work rate, skill and consistency. All that glitters every so often won’t be in contention. Greely is one of those players that has a knack of making the right decision. A coach is going to love him because he knows week in week out he’s going to get the job done. The second try Greely wasn’t the guy who made the initial break it was Flook, Greely was at the bottom of the ruck when Flook was off along the sideline. Greely got up and made the effort to catch up with play but also read the play nicely and hit the pass from Campbell at pace and then held the pass beautifully to Ryan.
6 Go to commentsSpot on Ben. Dead right. Havili looked great at 10. Easily the highest rugby IQ of any NZ player these days. Getting a kick charged down is a result of getting used to adjusting your depth to the line at 10, which he will sort out with time. But other than that it was an outstanding first effort in that position this year. I think the NZ media has misunderstood this directive from Razor. Havili might rank behind B Barrett this year, but Beuden is 33 this month and won't last much longer. DMaC is great but flaky and not really a test match animal (his efforts in Dunedin versus Aus last year for example). If Razor can't have Mounga, DMaC is too unstructured for Razor (and is just too small for test rugby). Havili will end up our first choice first five, and in partnership with Jodie will be excellent. Two triple threat operators in tandem, and big bodies and tough tacklers to boot. Jordoe will be the ABs goal kicker. I am an Aucklander and Blues (and Warriors) fan, but Havili at 10 is going to be sensational in time… he can be the best first five in the world by the end of this year. No question.
6 Go to commentsSharks deserved to be far further back by the last quarter. Their tackling was awful, their set pieces were disappointing, their defensive organization was poor (especially on the Kok side of the D line), they kept making unnecessary errors, and they never looked like cracking the Clermont defense during those first 60m. Masuku kept them in touch, with some help from the Clermont generosity on penalty opportunities. Agree with the writer of this article. It was belligerence, and ability to raise their pressure game just enough, that turned the last quarter into a Bok-style shutout. Clermont have a reputation of not playing the full 80m, and there was a bit of that for sure. But, quite often when the intensity of a team drops off in the last quarter credit is due to the opponent for tiring them out. At 60m, with the Kok try, you thought that just maybe the game was on. At 70m, with the Mapimpi contribution, one felt that Clermont were fading, while facing a team that would maintain the pressure game through the final whistle. Good win in the end, but the Sharks are still playing way below their potential. And with their resources, and a coach that has had enough time to figure things out, they are running out of excuses.
7 Go to commentsGood riddance
1 Go to commentswel the crusaders were beaten by a queensland reds side that hadnt beaten them at home since 1999 and queensland reds partied like it was 1999
6 Go to commentsHard to disagree with the 5 points - with the exception that Wilson should be a squad member but, depending on the other loose forward selections, is not yet a shoo-in. McReight is. Aussie is looking a lot better this year and JS has some selection options. Also, Havili’s tendency to get caught, charged down is also a liability at times but he seemed focused (mostly) and is definitely a consideration for utility back-up. Still feel Reihana is a better prospect at 1st five for Saders.
6 Go to commentsYeah nah, still not sure on Havili tbh. Even though I’m a Crusaders fan through and through I’d be stunned if Razor considers him after seeing some of the stunning talent coming through up North.
6 Go to commentsThink it was a great defensive performance by Northampton. They didn't have stage fright in the first half, the Nienaber defense smothered them. They limited Leinster to 15-3 in the first half. It could have been over by then. A great try from Leinster in the start of the second half looked to have sealed it. But Byrne missed another conversion. Northampton started trying little kicks behind the Leinster wingers. Leinster messed one and Smith brilliantly made the conversion. Leinster decided to tighten the game after Byrne missed a straight forward penalty. A few errors got NH into the 22 and they scored and converted with a few minutes left. Another brilliant steal from Lawes saw NH have a final attack which was turned over by Conan. A classic semi final. World record attendance of 82,300. Leinsters 3 week preparation warranted for this one.
1 Go to commentsJust came back from the game and the atmosphere was amazing. Players stayed afterwards for more than a hour to sign stuff and take photos with fans. Great day out.
7 Go to commentsA great game. The Sharks without Etsebeth are a shadow of the team compared to when he plays. The limitations of Some of the expensive Sharks players are being exposed. Credit to Clermont for some exhilaration play at times.
7 Go to comments100% Mr Owens. But who would want to be a referee.? It must be the most difficult job on earth.
1 Go to commentsStarts to be overdone and oversold this systematic SA narrative…which nevertheless has the merit in this case to recognise blatant refereeing mistakes in their favor
7 Go to commentsNice article. Shades of Steinbeck. They can win the final if they take the game seriously; but only if they take it seriously.
7 Go to commentsWhat a sad way to end a glittering career. Somebody should tell him to delete his social media accounts and face the consequences of what he's done. Then he should slip away quietly into obscurity. This isn't likely to happen, something tells me he'll be back in The Sun / Daily Mail sooner rather than later.
5 Go to commentsguys its fine! he understands why he did what he did and has taken accountability for it; why should he have to be accountable to a court? after all he did was abuse people in person - its not as if he was engaging in _online_ abuse!
5 Go to commentsChiefs flanker Kaylum Boshier yellow-carded for collapsing the scrum as it rolled towards the line. It was a maul….
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