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The ‘match-fixing’ question put to Springboks boss Jacques Nienaber


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Springboks boss Jacques Nienaber was left bemused by a post-match question on Sunday night in Marseille about the potential for Ireland and Scotland to somehow come to an agreement and play out a result next Saturday in Paris that would see the two Celtic nations qualify for the Rugby World Cup quarter-finals at the expense of the 2019 champions.

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South Africa currently top Pool B following their win over Tonga at Stade Velodrome. They have 15 points, with unbeaten Ireland in second on 14 points and Scotland in third on 10 points.

A bonus point win for the Scots next weekend that also sees the Irish collect a losing bonus point would see all three teams finish on 15 points, resulting in the pool standings being decided on points difference.

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Currently, the Springboks are on +117, Ireland on +122 and Scotland +97 – and Springboks boss Nienaber was horrified by the idea that a result to eliminate South Africa purposely could be concocted.

If Scotland finish top on points difference with all teams on 15 points, second place would then be decided on the head-to-head Ireland versus South Africa pool result, a match that the Irish won and this would eliminate South Africa.

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Finishing up his post-game media briefing after the Springboks’ 49-18 win over Tonga, Nienaber was asked by a French journalist about the mathematics surrounding next weekend’s pool finale at Stade de France.

“If I understand you correct, so you say they can maybe chat between each other and decide…” he said initially, confused after listening to a translation of the question. The query was put to him a second time and this was his response:

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“Could I believe in a scenario that they will decide, ‘Okay, we want to get this amount of points and then get South Africa out of the way?’

“That would probably be match-fixing I would say. I hope not. Rugby’s clean. We wear those T-shirts. Hopefully not because that would be extremely disappointing, don’t you think?”

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Div 1047 days ago

Jacques was most certainly not “horrified”, his answer was sarcastic (“I hope not” & “Wouldn’t you agree”), given the ridiculousness of the question.

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DK 1047 days ago

I think it's disrespectful to Ireland and Scotland to suggest that they would effectively cheat to eliminate South Africa. They're almost certainly more worried about themselves at this stage than South Africa.

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NE 1047 days ago

Geez, little girl. Your childish, pathetic bleats just serve to confirm what a complete rugby dunce you are (but heywood all knew that already). Tell us, little one, why does getting owned and schooled and shown up as an irrelevant litykevtwerp get you so upset? You must be used to it by now. Try harder, jump higher, loser.

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PM 1047 days ago

Lol, Nigel you are a special kind of stupid. A league of your own. Geez there's no medication that would cure your stupidity. You accuse me of cherry picking, but you can refer to only one result of 53 - 3. Cherry picking at its very best. Go figure. Head-to-head, SA is well clear of ENG, in respect of wins 27 to 16. SA has beaten ENG 12 times out of 24 test matches in your own backyard (50% success rate), whereas ENG only has a 25% success rate in SA (4 wins from 16 test matches). Instead of engaging in healthy and non-offensive debates, anyone who does not agree with your views are either dumb, stupid, little girls, etc, etc, etc. The list goes on. Grow up meneer.

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PO 1047 days ago

This was quite a ridiculous question to ask the coach. If two teams decide the outcome of a game before kickoff, then it is fixed, I can't see Ireland willingly give up their winning streak because they are on their way to set a new world record with their current winning streak.

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NE 1047 days ago

You elected to cherry pick history and ended up getting owned and schooled with egg on your face. Gee, but you are one dumb little kid.

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NE 1047 days ago

Still no half century hiding, dumb saffa loser. Duh. Go and bleat on your Barbie and Twinkie sites instead of making an even bigger c*nt of yourself here than you already have. Off you go now, there's a good little girl.

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PM 1047 days ago

Lol, and then on 26 May 2007, SA smashed ENG 58 - 10 and one week later on 2 June 2007 55 - 22. Then on 14 September 2007, the score was 36 - 0. Two cricket scores in there lol

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NE 1048 days ago

If you want to talk history remind me of how mommy had to hold you tight when we gave you a 53 - 3 hiding and then anialated all 8 attempts of the little bokkies when they tried to get physical. That was hilarious. Cricket score hiding of note and then pummeled into submission. A classic.

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rj 1048 days ago

Imagine having a job that only paid out when articles written needed a certain numbers of hits!!! Yes boys and girls, welcome to the world of online journalism, and these dickheads will write and conjure absolutely anything to make a buck and turn us all into frenzied pundits abusing each other’s intelligence. Fuck em.

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NE 1048 days ago

OK, my bad, little girl. Still, enjoy going through my posts with a grown up, you'll learn a lot. Off you go now, there's a good little girl.

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GG 1048 days ago

Would absolutely love the situation where all the real rugger guys are sitting in a pub chatting rugby, and Nigel walks in and realizes that all the people he has trash talked about for the last few weeks are sitting there. Can just imagine his bravery then. 😂

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sean 1048 days ago

With a name like Nigel I doubt he is much fun In a pub

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Tee 1049 days ago

Rugbys clean, hahahaha wow

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Head high tackle 1048 days ago

Some would say SA threw that game v Ireland just to finish second in their pool. Pretty simple kicks got missed.

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David 1049 days ago

It is not possible in any circumstance for SA not to go through. Do the maths whichever way you wish

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pof 1048 days ago

David, you should have a read of the rules as to what happens in a three-way points tie. And then do the maths again.

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Matt Perry 1048 days ago

The way I wish to do the maths is "correctly" which I hope is OK with you.


If Scotland beat Ireland 51-30, with Ireland scoring four tries and Scotland (obviously) achieving a try bonus point, then all three teams will be tied on 15 points.


In this case, the tiebreaker is applied. Ordinarily, this would be head-to-head result but obviously you cannot use this for a three-way tie. In this case, the tiebreaker becomes points difference. Scotland +118, South Africa +117, Ireland +101. Scotland top the group.


Now the tiebreaker is to see who comes second. Because this is between two teams, you CAN use a head-to-head result. Ireland beat South Africa, and therefore go through in second place thanks to the head-to-head tiebreaker.


In this possible (though improbable) circumstance, South Africa finish third and do not go through*.


Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.


*Funnily enough, if Ireland had scored four tries but were trailing Scotland by 15 points, they would be better off allowing Scotland to score a converted try than they would be defending.

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Wa 1049 days ago

If

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sean 1049 days ago

This is the most ridiculous question ever asked, next the conspiracy theorists are gonna conclude Nic Berry should get this match to ensure payback for that awful video from Rassie, who’s the match official ? Oh wait it’s Nic Berry 😂😂 I can see the articles

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Blanco 1049 days ago

After sweating blood to avoid France Ireland would throw that all away in a conspiracy involving all 66 Scots/Irish players and coaching staff......

What publication does this moron write for?

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Wa 1049 days ago

Irish sport news

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sean 1049 days ago

Exactly

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James 1049 days ago

To kick SA out would require Ireland to conspire to come second in the pool. Why would they do that?

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Head high tackle 1048 days ago

To avoid NZ.

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rj 1048 days ago

Exactly. Tell Johnny Sexton to tell his world number 1 team on a 17 have winning streak to lose. FFS can you hear this Shit. Lol

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Wa 1049 days ago

To not face them in the final... where they won't be experimenting with long kicks etc.

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Alwyn 1049 days ago

Here's the maths guys. If Ireland score 4 tries with no conversion = 20 points, then Scotland have to Score eight tries with at least one conversion to get the greater than 20 points difference.

So minimum score line of IRE 20 - 42 Scotland.

Now, you try and remember the last time a team scored 6 or more tries against Ireland...

RWC 2019 quarterfinal NZ scored 6 against Ireland.

So this is very unlikely, and would end up with a lot of questions to both teams if it happens.

I don't think Sexton would let up the chance for Ireland to have a possibility of 19 Wins on the trot.... if Ireland wins the RWC..

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David 1049 days ago

And if Scotland get 20 point difference that means Ireland goes down to 102 PD... IRELAND go home... why would they do that ... too funny

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James 1049 days ago

Well, Scotland would have to win by 25 points (122-97=25) so they'd end up with the same points differential as Ireland (thus coming out on top with the who beat who 2nd rule).

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