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Vannes rate encore le coche, Clermont à l'arraché

L'ailier de Vannes Paul Surano face à l'ailier de Clermont Alivereti Raka lors du match de rugby du Top 14 français entre le RC Vannes et l'ASM Clermont au Stade de la Rabine à Vannes, le 5 janvier 2025. (Photo by FRED TANNEAU / AFP) (Photo by FRED TANNEAU/AFP via Getty Images)

L’ASM s’impose d’un point sur la pelouse de Vannes (20-19) reprend place parmi les qualifiables du Top 14. Le RCV s’est défendu vaillamment, a eu des occasions, mais a fini par s’incliner. Une cinquième défaite à La Rabine qui laisse les Bretons à sept points du Stade Français, 13e actuel du Top 14.

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Top 14
Vannes
19 - 20
Temps complet
Clermont
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Deux dernières minutes à l’image du match du RC Vannes, et même de sa saison. C’est d’abord Francis Saili, l’ancien All Black sur lequel le staff fondait beaucoup d’espoirs, qui perd le ballon sur une percussion dans les 22 clermontois (78e).

Puis, alors que les Bretons ont récupéré le ballon et sont à nouveau dans le camp adverse, un ruck mal négocié qui se termine par un ballon gratté par le 3e ligne de l’ASM Alexandre Fischer (80e). Rideau.

« Ça fait chier », lâchait l’ouvreur et buteur Maxime Lafage au micro de Canal +, exprimant toute sa frustration, sa déception, son abattement peut-être avec une cinquième défaite à domicile pour Vannes.

Graphique d'évolution des points

Clermont gagne +1
Temps passé en tête
27
Minutes passées en tête
30
33%
% du match passés en tête
37%
68%
Possession sur les 10 dernières minutes
32%
0
Points sur les 10 dernières minutes
0

Celle de trop pour croire encore au maintien ? En tout cas, le RCV compte sept points de retard sur le Stade Français, 13e. Un gouffre, quand on en a cumulé 16 en 14 journées de championnat.

Au-delà de la fin de rencontre, les Bretons pourront enrichir leur rayon ‘regrets’ avec ce sauvetage d’Anthony Belleau devant Salesi Rayasi (56e) et ces trois pénaltouches perdues consécutivement autour de l’heure de jeu.

On en revient toujours au même constat avec Vannes

En somme, on en revient toujours au même constat avec Vannes, cette saison : de la bonne volonté, de l’envie, des débuts de match canons, mais trop d’imprécisions, trop de munitions gâchées, trop de déficit physique.

Pourtant, Clermont paraissait encore dans l’autocar pendant près d’une demi-heure en début de match. Cinq pénalités concédées en neuf minutes, un carton jaune pour Killian Tixeront (3e), un essai signé Romaric Camou à l’issue d’une belle combinaison (10e).

Mais sans fournir un gros match, notamment dans la discipline (16 pénalités au total), l’ASM a mieux maitrisé les moments clés, a profité de sa supériorité physique pour repasser au score sur le gong de la mi-temps (10-13).

Rebelote en deuxième période, avec l’essai signé Alex Newsome à l’issue d’un beau mouvement collectif avec notamment une passe volleyée du 2e ligne Thibaud Lanen (54e) pour répondre aux deux pénalités de Lafage (43e, 52e).

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Clermont passera beaucoup de temps à défendre dans les vingt dernières minutes. Ce que les hommes de Christophe Urios ont plutôt bien fait, puisque hormis la 4e pénalité d’un Lafage à 100% ce dimanche soir (5/5), ils n’ont concédé aucun point.

De quoi prendre quatre points précieux et effacer, s’il se peut, la bévue de la défaite concédée au Michelin devant Montpellier la semaine dernière.


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JD 16 minutes ago
Steve Borthwick urged by predecessor to make radical Ben Earl decision

Happy to concede I mis read stats in relation to games played. Sorry about that.


Ojomoh is only a guaranteed starter when Redpath isn’t injured for Bath. Luckily for him Redpath is has been quite injury prone recently, but when Cam is fit, he starts. I like him, but he doesn’t have the second playmaker ability which England seem to prefer at 12.


Seb has not even made the A’s squad and is a long way from a call up. 2 years is too soon.


I’m not going to change my mind in respect of BJVR, mainly because I do not see his age as an issue (30 at the next world cup) and because I don’t see the issue with selecting players who are qualified for our country.


He fits the bill perfectly in terms of his skillset and type of play, he has been playing at the top level of club rugby for the last 6 years or so and is regarded as one of the best in our league in his position, starting week in/ week out for the second placed team.


If he was 33 or so at the next world cup, or if his form went off a cliff, I would agree with you. Neither of these are the case. If his form continues, he comes into the squad. No pressure to immediately excel as there will be around 10 games between a potential first cap and the WC.


Main mistake being made, regardless of the above, is SB persisting with Slade. Why not give Ojomoh a go now and see? Why not try Dingwall? Steve’s run of poor results mean he has slightly lost the ability to try different things unless we get some wins. I expect Ojomoh to tour Argentina in the summer though.

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Spew_81 1 hour ago
'He wants players to be able to play four positions': Former All Black critiques Robertson's strategy

I’m not making it up regarding to Hansen’s intentions for the 10 jersey for the All Blacks in regards to McKenzie.


Lima Sopoaga retired in 2020.


McKenzie started in the third All Blacks vs France test in Dunedin in 2018. Hansen started McKenzie at 10 and put Mo’unga on the bench: Damian McKenzie's 24 point game! + Rieko Ioane hat trick: All Blacks vs France 2018 » allblacks.com.


Or see this article just before the match: Damian McKenzie takes hold of All Blacks No 10 jersey while Richie Mo’unga looms large | Stuff.


Damian is coming along nicely," Hansen told All Blacks TV. "He has shown he can play genuine test rugby as a fullback and the other night he put in a good stint at first-five for us.”


Hansen was giving Mo’unga a raw deal at the same time:


Hansen has indicated that Mo'unga will get a decent amount of game time, despite missing out on a starting spot. "Richie will get his shot off the bench,” said Hansen. "He has a strong ability to drive the team when he has been given an opportunity, so we are extremely confident he can do the job."


Mo’unga only got a real look in when McKenzie got badly injured and couldn’t make RWC 2019.


Hansen wanted B Barrett at 10 and saw McKenzie as the next option with Mo’unga in third place, in case of injury.


Cruden was playing Top 14 from 2017-2019, so he was fit enough to play at a high level. A an experienced 10 who was a game manager, who worked well with SBW could’ve been useful.


Regarding the Board. They were right to give Hansen the freedom to try his ideas. He was very successful. The All Blacks looked awesome against Ireland in the RWC 2019 quarter final. They were unprepared to play England in the semi though. It was more the Board installing Foster as the coach, and not removing him after two seasons, that was the Board’s error. The repercussions of that are still being worked through.

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JW 2 hours ago
'He wants players to be able to play four positions': Former All Black critiques Robertson's strategy

Yeah I agree Hansen loved Beaudy way too much. Don’t see what that has to do with your statement of Dmac though.


I think you’re doing that thing where you make stuff up to fit the current picture you’re trying to paint.

But Hansen clearly wanted McKenzie at 15 (probably to take over at 10 later, like B Barrett did). So Cruden was on the outer.

Dmac had never been used as a starting 10 at any level by the point Lima had retired. Mo’unga took over, not Dmac.


Cruden was given the 10 jersey post 2015. He got injured in his second game, lost his jersey after that, but was still second to Barrett. Yes, many thought he should have been given it back (and that he should have got it back straight qaway), but Dmac wasn’t even in the picture at this point so you’re completly off track with those statements you’ve made.


That was the only occasion Dmac played 10, he was always at 15 in that period you mention.

After Cruden as dropped, Mo’unga was the only ‘knock out game’ test 10 New Zealand had. I guess Hansen sold them the idea that McKenzie was the way forward at 10, while Foster thought he could make B Barrett into ‘knock out game’ test 10? Who knows the thought process that went on.


Good job they cleaned the Board out.

Cruden was the first five version of Ethan Blackadder, he was not dropped, he couldn’t regain his place after injury and he said that his injuries were a big factor in leaving.


Hansen had nothing to do with McKenzie at 10.


That you comment about the board in this discussion is enlightening Spew!


Nothing you’ve replied with contradicts when I said about the inaccuracy of those highlighted statements. Bias is sending you waaay off track.


The facet I could agree on (not that you’ve really made the point) would be that by delaying bringing Mo’unga into the side, and instead continuing with Lima (or Barrett if you want to make Lima 1 and Richie 2), he cut short Richies prep for RWC 2019. It would indeed be a lot of pressure to handle being given the 10 jersey a few months out from a WC.


And ofc the old clicks penchants for dual playmakers and thinking Barrett can be a 10 (you’re preaching to the choir, just with bad basis of facts).

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