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Investec Champions Cup

Champions Cup : Toulon se complique encore la tâche mais s'en sort face à Glasgow

Par Jérémy Fahner

15 Déc 2024

Le centre néo-zélandais de Toulon Leicester Fainga'anuku, ici plaqué par le troisième ligne sud-africain des Glasgow Warriors Henco Venter lors du match de Coupe des champions entre le RC Toulon et les Glasgow Warriors au stade Mayol de Toulon, le 15 décembre 2024. (Photo by CLEMENT MAHOUDEAU / AFP) (Photo by CLEMENT MAHOUDEAU/AFP via Getty Images)

Comme sur la pelouse des Stormers la semaine dernière, le RC Toulon s’est retrouvé à 13 face à Glasgow, ce dimanche. Et comme en Afrique du Sud, les Varois ont réussi à passer outre cette période difficile pour l’emporter et signer une deuxième victoire en deux matchs de Champions Cup (30-29).

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30 - 29

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Graphique d'évolution des points

Toulon gagne +1

Temps passé en tête

72

Minutes passées en tête

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90%

% du match passés en tête

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15%

Possession sur les 10 dernières minutes

85%

3

Points sur les 10 dernières minutes

7

#InvestecChampionsCup | 💫 Le doublé Fainga’Anuku qui lance parfaitement les Toulonnais dans cette deuxième période (20-12). #RCTvGLA
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— francetvsport (@francetvsport) December 15, 2024

#InvestecChampionsCup | Brian Alainu’uese transperce la défense écossaise pour inscrire le troisième essai toulonnais (27-15) 🔥 #RCTvGLA
📺 Suivez le match en direct : https://t.co/zhQfMEBgW4 pic.twitter.com/DDqImQVoWZ
— francetvsport (@francetvsport) December 15, 2024

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cw 6 hours ago

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He is certainly no Skelton. His dimensions are similar to Eben at 204 cm / 120kg v 203 cm / 122kg. Though I take your point - the Boks churn out monsters in huge numbers. But we do have our own collection of monsters Tamaiti at 196 cm / 144 kg (combined 340) and Tosi at 193 / 140 kg (333) are as big as the biggest Bok monsters eg Snyder is 207cm / 130kg (337). And the point of having Vaa’i or Holland or Barrett at 4, 5 and or 6 and combined with others like Tuipulotu

and Parker - is that in “physics” theory at least their combined power matches that of the Boks - and provides the base for a rock solid scrum. And from memory, when Vaa’i or Holland were on the blindside, the NZ scrum did not go backwards.

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JW 7 hours ago

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What makes you think Jake is?

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JW 7 hours ago

The coaching conundrum part one: Is there a crisis Down Under?

He will have a clause, they all do these days.

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JW 7 hours ago

The coaching conundrum part one: Is there a crisis Down Under?

With PMCD and I sorry.

New Zealand had more meters carried but England had more meters gained, so England had a much narrower margin between the two, or more specifically, because NZ had a much wider margin (gained only half or meters carried) that it proved England had a good rush D (the topic of discussion).

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cw 8 hours ago

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cw 8 hours ago

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I just saw Kemeny’s try on the highlights lol

What a run him and Genge, love the leagues where you can still see those sorts of plays.

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